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by DEB
Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:01 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Senators seek back room deal on firearm background checks
Replies: 48
Views: 7286

Re: Senators seek back room deal on firearm background check

I just watched a Movie, April Morning, about the American Revolution. It appears that the wheel of life continues to turn. I believe, through my reading, that the American Revolution started due to taxes, attempts to control firearms and Legislatures/Leaders who no longer represent the led, but instead believe themselves to be the better and the led to be nothing but simple subjects. I also know that D.C. represents the will of the large cities, but they IMO no longer represent the majority of the American landmass. Anyway, I found in a movie made in the early 1980s, to have the same arguments that liberals of today have. The British Army, the best in the world, no one has a chance to stand against tyranny and etc. I know that my comment does not fully meet the intent of this subject, but it kind of does as well.
by DEB
Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:09 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Senators seek back room deal on firearm background checks
Replies: 48
Views: 7286

Re: Senators seek back room deal on firearm background check

terryg wrote:For what its worth, Baldeagle, I agree with you. If you have enough guns for sale to be able to afford to rent a table at a show, you ought to do background checks just like every other table.

I also don't like the activities enabled by armslist. I have sold firearms on gunbroker and sent them to an FFL to transact with the buyer. The armslist website, however, only serves to link two strangers for the purpose of a private sale transaction. I think conducting 'private party' gun transactions with complete strangers is pretty irresponsible. I have also conducted FTF transactions with members of this board - but the difference is that even though the individual was in some ways a stranger - this is still a community and you have some idea of who you are dealing with.

I know this isn't a popular viewpoint here. But background checks are an accepted pre-check to purchasing a firearm. They either need to be rolled back completely or made to apply in as many genuinely non-personal transactions as possible.
baldeagle wrote: Yes, you're being inconvenienced in the exercise of your rights, but you haven't lost them. But if you adopt a rigid stand on ALL gun related registration, you will almost certainly lose your rights or be forced to fight and possibly die for them.
:iagree: :iagree: This is exactly the case.

But, I think the 'compromise' that every one is looking for with a law such as this should be a very strongly worded re-affirmation that govt registration of firearms or gun-owners will never be included by law or order.
First to Bald Eagle, thank you for engaging this in conversation. I personally cannot support any more compromise. Will I have to? Perhaps and perhaps not, depending on where my line in the sand stands. As far as being forced to fight and perhaps die for what I believe to be my rights; I trained and practiced half of that for 21 years as did you Bald Eagle and others. Again where is that line in the sand. In order for mandatory Background Checks to be effectively policed, all firearms will have to be registered and have some sort of police check ala Britain, otherwise how will anyone know? I guess having L.E. doing some sort of undercover work and catching those of us who are not complying, thus placing us in the same category as Drug Pushers and etc. 20 years to life anyone? For something that was legal since America was in being. I feel it will not be, a just at Gun Show fix, it will in fact permeate into everything, I as a gun owner participates in. If one does not wish to sell without a background check there are many FFLs more than willing to charge one to help sell one's property. Again this is one reason I love lurking on this board, and that is when folks bring up the unpopular, so thanks again Bald Eagle. :thumbs2: But I still feel no more compromise, might fully be defeated, but at least I fought and can look my grandchildren in the eye when I talk about the good old days.

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