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Last year, a Texas judge put off a state trial in the case as federal prosecutors determined whether they would seek capital punishment.

This should have been a State trial, not a local one. This "hate crime" ploy is just another method of Federal overreach. Double jeopardy is basic right but the Feds are using it to thwart States like Texas.

troglodyte wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:17 am What must happen for us, as a society, to severally curtail these events is to have a much higher percentage of LTCs so when the guy walks in and open fires 3 or 4 individuals in the immediate area draw and hit him with 12 rounds. It's no different than the thinking behind Run, Hide, Fight and similar training. Overpower him with numbers. If 3 or 4 pistol wielders shot him at the first sign then these evil people would think twice about their actions. It would be over almost as fast as it began. There likely would be casualties but I venture the numbers would be a lot less. As a result I see the instances of mass shootings declining.

Undoubtedly this is a societal issue and one we must address but we need to meet this evil with firepower in the meantime.

(There's a lot more to it than this but I'm already late to work. You get the basic drift)

I've recently made known to some members of my church that I carry all the time. My intent was to surface others who might also be carrying or at least who have LTCs and have considered carrying at least for our services. Like you, I believe that meeting evil with overwhelming force is a great deterrent. I did manage to surface some people with LTCs and was surprised (appalled?) at their reactions.

I personally don't want to have to shoot at another person, let alone to deliver what could be a mortal wound. I would consider it the worst imaginable scenario if an innocent person where hit in the process. But the latter seems to be the reason that many do not carry and cannot imagine themselves defending a church full of innocent people - and that frankly appalls me. If I don't act, it is likely that a lot of innocent people are going to be hurt or killed. I've read Charles Cotton's post and agree that I could never look myself in the mirror again if that happened. It would be folly to believe that every action we might take comes without risks, only some of which we recognize at the moment. The El-Paso Wal-Mart, like many areas of our church, is possibly subject to over-penetration. The 4th rule of safety only applies to what you can actually see behind your target because there is no way to know what is behind a wall or a rack of merchandise beyond that sight.

I believe that the doctor's code of "do no harm" is behind a lot of individual decisions to not carry in crowded places or to not be willing to shoot if evil arrives. Until we can break that mind-set, the possibility of meeting an evil shooter with 3-4 armed responders is merely a wish.

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