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by E.Marquez
Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:44 pm
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Topic: BOUNTY HUNTERS
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Re: BOUNTY HUNTERS

Glockster wrote:
EEllis wrote:
E.Marquez wrote:So Im not a legal expert, not even as educated as well as I would like to be..
PC 30.05 states in part
(a) A person commits an offense if he enters or remains on or in property, including an aircraft or other vehicle, of another without effective consent or he enters or remains in a building of another without effective consent and he:
(1) had notice that the entry was forbidden; or
(2) received notice to depart but failed to do so.

(b) For purposes of this section:
(1) "Entry" means the intrusion of the entire body.
(2) "Notice" means:
(A) oral or written communication by the owner or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner;
(B) fencing or other enclosure obviously designed to exclude intruders or to contain livestock;
(C) a sign or signs posted on the property or at the entrance to the building, reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders, indicating that entry is forbidden;
- See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/ ... OzOGX.dpuf

(a), (1) & (2) in red.. are both of those points of law required to make it trespassing?
or just, 1, the other or both?
You need A and either 1 or 2
And how is it that A 1 AND A2 were not met? It was posted and they were also told to leave.
Seems it did meet both, and thus would appear to be at odds with at least one other posters beliefs you must have a locked gate or more to make a charge of trespassing viable.

Perhaps a DA would not take to court unless the trespasser made an overt entry though a locked gate..and or was told to leave or be in violation. That MIGHT be the reality of it... But the black and white of the law seems to say otherwise.
by E.Marquez
Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:40 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: BOUNTY HUNTERS
Replies: 61
Views: 12474

Re: BOUNTY HUNTERS

EEllis wrote:
E.Marquez wrote:
What case law are you referring to then?
Not trying to be dense, we are discussion trespassing by a Bounty Hunter (or maybe it's not trespassing??)
You seemed to imply a closed gate and No trespassing signs clearly posted do not meet the law's requirements to charge a person with trespassing and that there is "plentiful Texas case law about this."

So I ask.. What case law supports your position ..so I may read it for myself...
This is not a joke, not a troll, nothing negative..at all.. My apologies if you misunderstood and took it that way. :tiphat:
I'm not spending my time looking it up. Suffice to say if you wouldn't throw a girl scout, and that is an example used in one opinion, in jail for knocking on your door trying to sell you cookies then anyone who knocks on your door for a lawful purpose also gets a pass. That they call themselves bounty hunters makes no real legal difference. (the exception would be if it was considered by a DA that the purpose of the bounty hunters was illegal on it's fact then entering into posted property would be criminal trespass)
So you actually don't know any case law to cite :headscratch

Ok thats what i figured, but I thought it only considerate to ask and not assume.
by E.Marquez
Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:52 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: BOUNTY HUNTERS
Replies: 61
Views: 12474

Re: BOUNTY HUNTERS

So Im not a legal expert, not even as educated as well as I would like to be..
PC 30.05 states in part
(a) A person commits an offense if he enters or remains on or in property, including an aircraft or other vehicle, of another without effective consent or he enters or remains in a building of another without effective consent and he:
(1) had notice that the entry was forbidden; or
(2) received notice to depart but failed to do so.

(b) For purposes of this section:
(1) "Entry" means the intrusion of the entire body.
(2) "Notice" means:
(A) oral or written communication by the owner or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner;
(B) fencing or other enclosure obviously designed to exclude intruders or to contain livestock;
(C) a sign or signs posted on the property or at the entrance to the building, reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders, indicating that entry is forbidden;
- See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/ ... OzOGX.dpuf

(a), (1) & (2) in red.. are both of those points of law required to make it trespassing?
or just, 1, the other or both?
by E.Marquez
Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:31 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: BOUNTY HUNTERS
Replies: 61
Views: 12474

Re: BOUNTY HUNTERS

EEllis wrote:
E.Marquez wrote:"if they went to knock on the door you can't get a criminal trespass. There is plentiful Texas case law about this."
Can you point us to the case law on bounty hunters coming to a residence at night to a property not owned or lived at by the bail jumper who was acquitted or otherwise case dropped, not found guilty of trespassing having passed a closed gate and no trespassing signs?

Thanks
Are you joking? You have to know it doesn't work like that. I mean go ahead and believe anything you want but for everyone else if you want to successfully prosecute someone for trespassing you need a locked gate.
Joking? No.. I read what you posted and was interested in this case law you stated was plentiful.
I must have mis read what you posted I guess..
EEllis wrote:There is plentiful Texas case law about this."
What case law are you referring to then?
Not trying to be dense, we are discussion trespassing by a Bounty Hunter (or maybe it's not trespassing??)
You seemed to imply a closed gate and No trespassing signs clearly posted do not meet the law's requirements to charge a person with trespassing and that there is "plentiful Texas case law about this."

So I ask.. What case law supports your position ..so I may read it for myself...
This is not a joke, not a troll, nothing negative..at all.. My apologies if you misunderstood and took it that way. :tiphat:
by E.Marquez
Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:26 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: BOUNTY HUNTERS
Replies: 61
Views: 12474

Re: BOUNTY HUNTERS

"if they went to knock on the door you can't get a criminal trespass. There is plentiful Texas case law about this."
Can you point us to the case law on bounty hunters coming to a residence at night to a property not owned or lived at by the bail jumper who was acquitted or otherwise case dropped, not found guilty of trespassing having passed a closed gate and no trespassing signs?

Thanks
by E.Marquez
Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:44 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: BOUNTY HUNTERS
Replies: 61
Views: 12474

Re: BOUNTY HUNTERS

WTR wrote:we both live in the country and it has always taken the Deputies about an hour to respond to what they consider a " non emergency" call.
911 what is your emergency ?
"I have two home invaders detained at gunpoint, I'm in fear for my life, and may be forced to defend myself, please send help"

Rule #1, the first caller is the victim, all others are suspects.
It's not a " non emergency" call once a threat against you (your friend) is made.

I think others answered your pointed question of the trespassing signs.. :thumbs2:
Time for your friend to have a discussion with the Sheriff, and if know the Bail bondsmen that contracted the bounty hunter.

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