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cb1000rider wrote:

E.Marquez wrote: Two plates required, TC says it's a violation if not two, but no penalty is assigned, so no way for a court to claim jurisdiction nor adjudicate the citation if written.

Got a cite? I find it interesting to be stopped for an offense that I can be fined for...

It's still a law, on the books, it is just missing the penalty part..

Look in this thread,,, all the info you need to cure your curiosity is here.

cb1000rider wrote:I was stopped a few weeks ago for not having a front plate. I bought a car from MI and didn't install the TX plate.
Note, I believe recent caselaw means that you can't do what you were doing - that is display in the front window can get you a ticket. Here's a reference: http://www.cca.courts.state.tx.us/OPINI ... ONID=20044" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Basically if it's not in the "foremost part of the vehicle" you're doing it wrong.

All that is above in this thread..
It has case law going both ways, required front most, and another judge that said, if that is true, then why do we allow not the rear most location to be the only legal spot? (many cars you'll notice the rear plate is on the trunk deck, or in any case not on rear most face surface of the bumper)


And as far as the other thing... with HB 657 left to die in session, and HB557 http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... Bill=HB557" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; died in committee

It leaves us right where we were last session unless someone has another bill that was passed and sent to the gov.

Two plates required, TC says it's a violation if not two, but no penalty is assigned, so no way for a court to claim jurisdiction nor adjudicate the citation if written.

Of course IANAL

HB 657 which would have removed the need for a front plate died on the vine this last session
http://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB657/id/702802" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Scott in Houston wrote:I can't see how it's messed up. Looks like there's still a penalty/fine to me. Is that the old code?

YES that was the OLD code on top, the NEW code, and much more was at the AG opinion request I linked to..

Sorry about that, I figured folks would see what was in both links.. I edited my post above. TX TRANS CODE 504.943
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... TN.504.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sec. 504.943. OPERATION OF VEHICLE WITHOUT LICENSE PLATE. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway, during a registration period, a motor vehicle that does not display two license plates that:
(1) have been assigned by the department for the period; and
(2) comply with department rules regarding the placement of license plates.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a registration period a road tractor, motorcycle, trailer, or semitrailer that does not display a license plate that:
(1) has been assigned by the department for the period; and
(2) complies with department rules regarding the placement of license plates.
(c) This section does not apply to a dealer operating a vehicle as provided by law.
(d) A court may dismiss a charge brought under Subsection (a)(1) if the defendant:
(1) remedies the defect before the defendant's first court appearance; and
(2) pays an administrative fee not to exceed $10.

Added by Acts 2011, 82nd Leg., R.S., Ch. 1296, Sec. 221, eff. January 1, 2012.

Scott in Houston wrote:It may be somewhere in this 8 page thread, so I apologize if I missed it and cannot find it now, but can someone reference the new code/law?

OLD
Transportation Code, §502.404
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/ ... /H/502.404" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
NEW
Transportation Code, §504.943
Request for AG opinion RQ-1014-GA
https://www.oag.state.tx.us/opinions/op ... 1014GA.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Keith B wrote: There was a request to the AG for an opinion, but not sure he has made one yet (can't find one anyway) https://www.oag.state.tx.us/opinions/op ... 1014GA.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RQ-1014-GA shows as "withdrawn"
https://www.oag.state.tx.us/opin/index_rq.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I suppose that could mean it was resubmitted later with different wording (and as i don't know the new? number, it could be there) or withdrawn could mean just that.... with no further action