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dac1842 wrote:Bronco , carrying and drinking are no more a right than drinking and driving. Both are bad decisions. Both are illegal

1: the right to bare arms is a right, this is what I was inferring, I never stated, nor implied anything as silly as intoxicated driving was a right, That a state has placed limits on how your can action this right guarantied by the second amendment is another topic, and one many fail to understand is a failure of our nation when it comes to the constitution.
2: as some here do, you confuse and place your personal opinion in place of what the law says. Never seen it written in law that drinking and possession of a weapon is illegal.. Nor driving and drinking. Intoxication and either action is illegal. Personal opinion, bias, or ignorance often causes folks to wrongly qoute laws that do not exsist.

dac1842 wrote: But I also feel that CHL should not be prohibited from carrying anywhere except a bar.
Just my two cents.

Why do you choose to give up your rights?

The same person trusted to carry a weapon in Wal mart, can not be trusted to carry in a bar? Same idea is what leads antis to say you should not carry in a school, on campus, in a hospital.
It.s either a right, or not.
Your either capable of using, not using that weapon appropriately or not. nothing changes when you enter one type of building or another. Certainty I am not the only one that can (does) go into a bar and not drink every time?
Whither as the DD, or because I have to go back to work, or I just want to throw some darts.....

gigag04 wrote:Not that we encountered this exact scenario at work or anything.....DWI is a class B misdemeanor. If a CHL holder has a gun IN their vehicle or on their person (carrying under MPA or CHL - you pick), they get an automatic class A misdemeanor UCW charge.Interesting - I never really thought through that but it makes sense.

It surprises me not, that some in government, state, federal, local, and or law enforcement get giddy when they find a new way to charge a person with a violation of a law.So many laws on the books, overlapping, obscure.there is no way to obey them all.. Of course these laws only apply in use to the subjects. LEO's get a pass on alcohol and carrying a weapon, congressmen get a pass on almost everything, the president can start a war clearly in violation of law,, and gets a pass.So we have a stacking of charges.. DWI and a weapon in the vehicle gets you UCW,, what if your dog is in the car,, do you get charged with animal abuse? If you get cited for speeding, 5 mph over, and your child is in the car seat,, do you get a child endangerment charge?So many laws,,, when a Leo or DA wants to charge you with something, or many something's itS all there for them, stacked against you, the subject.All that said,,, giga thanks for pointing this out, and no offense to you is indented or implied. From your writings here I think your one of the larger majority of Leo with a brain and morels. And in no way do I approve of operating a vehicle while intoxicated. (yes I said intoxicated, per the law, not the abused version often bantered about in this very forum) nor do I approve of carrying a weapon while intoxicated.
Often i see people who post here that deserve not, the rights afforded by the constitution, they pick and choose, wanting the protections from one part, but ignorant or worse of other parts. It,s and all or nothing deal.