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Yes, the two lessons to learn here. The best place for your weapon is on your person. But if you have to leave it in the vehicle then you need a secure place to keep it. I'm thinking I'll order up a couple of these from Cabela's. http://bit.ly/dneWC0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Cheap enough that I can put one in each vehicle. And at the same time that will also help with the requirements to keep the guns from the kids. All my kids come shoot with me so I'm not worried, but since they are all teens I still need to have it more secured. Or just keep it on my belt!!!

Went yesterday to the HSLR. The plastic hasn't arrived yet so I didn't have to worry about carrying inside or not. We actually took my wife's truck instead of mine because we were gonna have 6 people instead of 5 coming back home. I almost grabbed the pistol hidden in my truck and moved it over but decided that I really wouldn't need it.

That turned out to be somewhat fortunate since the truck was broken into in the parking lot! (Yellow Lot). I came back out to the truck in the evening and one of the side doors wasn't closed. Everyone started blaming each other for not closing it. Opened the front door and the stuff from the glove box and console were all over the floor and seat.

The pulled out and found the Canon AE-1, some of my Oakley's, iPod accessories, and stuff. But they left that all on the seats and floor. It doesn't appear that they took anything. After inspection I found that the drivers door had something shoved through the handle and broken so they could just open it up. I guess they were looking for easy stuff like purses and things like that. But it appears that they took nothing. Had I moved the pistol they would have probably taken that. I don't have a good hiding place setup for it in the wife's car yet. I'll have to work on that!

Again, this is just intended for healthy debate here. I'm not looking to create some case law here by getting caught :-).

So to the point of the PRCA. They charge $300/yr to be a permit member. That doesn't mean that you will be able to win or even compete at someone's event, but it does make you a "Professional" by their terms. If you have won at least $1000 over your LIFETIME then you can apply for the Competition Member card which costs $500/yr. But the thing I'm seeing here is that you are never denied membership. So you do not have to earn your way into becoming professional.

However, I do agree that those definitions are what they would use to try and possibly convict me. But by the definitions of Professional above, I'm a professional drag racer, autocross racer, sound engineer, musician, web designer, DJ, barista, pit master, gambler, Oakley collector, eBay seller, and even video gamer!

Ok, so let's ask the question of why was that provision even put in there? I can sure understand the situation where people get very riled up at a sporting event. Riots after (or during) a big football or soccer event or protection for the referees/umpires/judges who might get shot over a bad call. I can see all that. But I don't see a danger in the sporting event when Tiger misses a putt or the rider gets bucked off the bronco http://texaschlforum.com/posting.php?mo ... bf386832da#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm just seeing a issue with there being no definition and I really feel that the Rodeo is not a "Professional" sporting event. Not intending to knock any riders here. I grew up where the real athletes in my school were rodeo riders and the second class jocks played football.

But as I'm seeing over and over here. Concealed is concealed, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6, yada yada.

Phrogg

First off, welcome to the forum.

Thanks, been lurking a lot but had my first question I couldn't find an answer to by searching.

I don't think I would challenge this in court since PRCA is PROFESSIONAL Rodeo Cowboy Assoc. and rodeo is considered a sport. While not everyone involved in an NFL football game is a professional athlete, it is still a professional sporting event.

Just attending the event is prohibited; you need not be a participant or working there, just a spectator is enough.

But the Professional part of the PRCA is simply them deciding to call themselves that. Its actually just their legal entity name/DBA.

Not trying to be too contrary here but if a sole proprietor files a DBA for Professional Rock, Paper, Scissors Association and then charges folks $15 to join his association and compete at the local public park with a $100 price for first place, is that now a Professional Sporting Event because someone called their company Professional RPSA? http://texaschlforum.com/posting.php?mo ... 7&p=369399#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If the same guy didn't apply for the DBA, would that then mean that the event is no longer "Professional?" I know this hasn't been answered in the courts yet.

That is essentially what PRCA is doing. They are an organization that help to bring together anyone who wants to apply for "credentials" together with various events that happen. Anyone who applies is deemed "professional" by applying and paying their money!

I guess I think that Professional means that you have salaried athletes who are paid whether they win or lose and a governing body with a commissioner who can actually FINE you money vs suspending your credentials. I'm going to dig a little deeper into the PRCA and see if they somehow can actually fine you. I'm not seeing that so far.

I have several trips to the rodeo coming up this year and I wanted to talk about this point just a little further.

One of the items that was brought up before was that because the rodeo was sponsored by the PRCA that it was a Professional Sporting Event (PSE) because the athletes were paid. But that is not quite true. You can be involved in the rodeo and not win anything. You simply apply for PRCA credentials and request entrance to an event. From the PRCA website:
Its like saying that if you are driving in the Monster Truck Jam and you win/place/show and you get a piece of the purse that its a PSE. Or like in my case where I drag race. I once brought home $100 from the event I was in because I made it all the way to the finals. But in no stretch of the imagination am I a professional Drag Racer. Shoot, I can't even get someone to pay me $20 to wear their decal on my helmet.

So I am not seeing that the Rodeo is a PSE.