Thanks once again. That's exactly what is causing the confusion in my mind. GC411.188 says:baldeagle wrote:He's referring to this:G26ster wrote:Thanks.baldeagle wrote:No.G26ster wrote:Never been a Marine, so do ALL Marines train and qualify with a pistol?
The thread begs the question, as I cannot find the answer, under what section of the code can military qualification be substituted for the handgun proficiency "demonstration?" I can find exemptions for "training" for active duty and vets, but not an exemption for the proficiency "demonstration."Sec. 411.1881. EXEMPTION FROM INSTRUCTION FOR CERTAIN PERSONS. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, a person may not be required to complete the range instruction portion of a handgun proficiency course to obtain or renew a concealed handgun license issued under this subchapter if the person:
(1) is currently serving in or is honorably discharged from:
(A) the army, navy, air force, coast guard, or marine corps of the United States or an auxiliary service or reserve unit of one of those branches of the armed forces; or
(B) the state military forces, as defined by Section 431.001; and
(2) has, within the five years preceding the date of the person's application for an original or renewed license, as applicable, completed a course of training in handgun proficiency or familiarization as part of the person's service with the armed forces or state military forces.
(b) The director by rule shall adopt a procedure by which a license holder who is exempt under Subsection (a) from the range instruction portion of the handgun proficiency requirement may submit a form demonstrating the license holder's qualification for an exemption under that subsection. The form must provide sufficient information to allow the department to verify whether the license holder qualifies for the exemption.
"Only a qualified handgun instructor may administer a handgun proficiency course. The handgun proficiency course must include at least 10 hours and not more than 15 hours of instruction on:
(1) the laws that relate to weapons and to the use of deadly force;
(2) handgun use, proficiency, and safety;
(3) nonviolent dispute resolution; and
(4) proper storage practices for handguns with an emphasis on storage practices that eliminate the possibility of accidental injury to a child."
and
"(2) a physical demonstration of proficiency in the use of one or more handguns of specific categories and in handgun safety procedures."
Section Sec. 411.1881 that you cited only says, "a person may not be required to complete the range instruction portion of a handgun proficiency course..."
As there's a vast difference between "instruction" and "testing" (demonstrating proficiency), if Sec. 411.1881 is meant to exempt the proficiency test, it should use wording other than, "a person may not be required to complete the range instruction portion..." It makes no mention of not requiring the "testing" (demonstration) portion. Very poorly worded IMHO.