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texjames wrote:

G192627 wrote:Ok... Opinion on the Sig 516 SWAT?

I looked at one at my local gun shop today, and really liked what I saw and felt.
It comes with the quad rail and a red dot optic. It was $1350.

I know Sig makes quality in all other firearms, so is it true here?
Also, it's a lifetime warranty which was nice too. :)

The rifle just felt "right" to me. I almost bought it, but because it's so final, I decided to do a little research on it first.

Opinions?

Is that the gas piston model? http://www.tactical-life.com/online/pro ... ives_title
What optics is on it?
I think its in one of my gun magazines....i'll look for it.

That's it. The optic is branded with Sig's name, but it's made by someone else. He said the name, but I'm drawing a blank. It started with an "i" I believe.
I'm trying to Google and figure out which manufacturer makes it.
I'd guess it's a mid-range optic at best, but not bad to start with and it provides an opening below to do short range, iron site shooting.

It looked sort of like this:

http://www.topgunsupply.com/sig-sauer-r ... s-081.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But it was mounted high for the opening below. I'm not sure that's the actual optic, but it's similar.


EDIT: It's actually made by iTAC in New Hampshire. It's about a $110-$150 sight I believe. It's not awesome, but ok for starters I guess.

I'm more concerned about the quality of the rifle itself because the optic can be changed and is relatively inexpensive.
This is an exact pic of how it looks now...
The stock is Magpul.

Ok... Opinion on the Sig 516 SWAT?

I looked at one at my local gun shop today, and really liked what I saw and felt.
It comes with the quad rail and a red dot optic. It was $1350.

I know Sig makes quality in all other firearms, so is it true here?
Also, it's a lifetime warranty which was nice too. :)

The rifle just felt "right" to me. I almost bought it, but because it's so final, I decided to do a little research on it first.

Opinions?

One thing I decided for sure....

I'm not buying one right now. I'm going to do some more learning and reading and talking to knowledgable folks. I thought I had a good idea of what I wanted, now I'm not so sure. hehe

There's no hurry, so I'm going to slow down.

Pawpaw wrote:I finally caved in and bought my first AR yesterday. I got a Colt AR6520.

I have wanted an M-16 since basic training in 1972. This is probably as close as I will get.

I had actually planned to get a S&W, but this was the same price and came with the sights I wanted.

Congrats!!! I can't wait until I post the same type of thing. :)

I'm considering one of these RRA rifles:

http://www.class3weapons.com/Rock_River ... _s/122.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or

This Colt:

http://site.cdnninvestments.com/CDNN2010-6/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Look at the M4 Carbine on Page 6 for $1099.99.

Well, I'm back to Rock River. hahaha
Given that the Colt would be sales tax, shipping, AND ffl.

I can drive to pick up the RRA... hold it and deal with them personally. Then I have a local "throat to choke" if I have issues too.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

G192627 wrote:That Colt deal seems even better than the RRA deal... and as you said, the RRA deal is here in Texas so I'd pay even more for sales tax, while for that Colt, it would be the FFL fee only.

Plus, the Colt is likely a slightly better quality rifle, right? I have nothing to base that on other than word of mouth and reputation.

Buy the Colt because you like the name, not because of the quality. I'll stand an RRA rifle up against it's equivalent in a Colt every single time. I really believe that RRA's quality is very, very hard to beat. I certainly don't think Colt's quality is any better. There's nothing wrong with Colt, but for the small aggregate difference between sales tax for a Texas supplier on one hand, and the combined FFL fee and freight on the other hand, I would rather support the Texas supplier. But that's just me.

Very good point there!! Thank you! You may be annoyed, but you're smart.

Thanks Annoyed Man for all that information!!
I definitely have learned from your experience. Thanks again.

I'm now leaning towards the Colt. :) I still don't think I want to build yet, but I know I won't go the heavy, varmint rifle route either.

That Colt deal seems even better than the RRA deal... and as you said, the RRA deal is here in Texas so I'd pay even more for sales tax, while for that Colt, it would be the FFL fee only.

Plus, the Colt is likely a slightly better quality rifle, right? I have nothing to base that on other than word of mouth and reputation.

I'm already ahead of you on the classes. SRVA, Steve, on this site will likely be my instructor.

I'm leaning toward purchasing one of these... Includes a rear site of my choice.

http://www.class3weapons.com/Rock_River ... _s/122.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks wninja for the pointer on this site/store.

Oh... I had forgotten about Tactical Firearms. I'm in Katy myself and went there to shoot their simulator range once.
They seem like a great group of guys and enthusiasts running that place.

Fountain seems ok to me, but close in price to Carter's Country and other expensive outfits. I'll window shop there though. :)
Thanks for the tips on whom to talk to. Gun shops are so funny about their 'idiots' and they are almost always the young guys. lol

Thanks guys!

Maverick,
I appreciate the thoughts on "mil spec". I'm with you understanding that decisions government makes, aren't necessarily a rubber-stamp for anything other than bureaucracy and waste.
To clarify, that $1800 Sig had an Eotech type sight on it, so the rifle itself is probably more like $1500, but still expensive, and your advice is probably spot on. I think that's what attracted me to the sig was the optic. I would bet it's a decent optic, but I'd probably be better served to buy a rifle without one, then buy a good one separately from Eotech or a similar brand.

wninja, I am in Houston, and thanks for the tip on Class 3 Weapons. I'll check that out. I definitely want to hold and inspect something before I buy.
I didn't know that about RRA and the DEA. I will have to look into those. That sounds like a better starting package than the S&W.
I definitely want a light, and potentially a laser. I have limited use for a time machine though... I mean really, what can you do with one of those?

I decided against building my first AR after a lot of reading. I think for my first, I may not know what I need/want or what would be the best.
I have decided buying a fully assembled AR from a manufacturer would be best. Then I can get to know it, and determine what I really like and dislike and maybe build one later.

Anyway, I want a quality AR. I don't want to be disappointed with it later. I'd like it to be flexible so I can add rails (if it doesn't have them already), etc.
The purpose for this rifle would be fun, and potentially home defense. I don't plan on adding a scope as I don't see me using it for anything much farther than 50 - 100 yards, and that would also hinder its use for close range such as home defense.

In my limited amount of 'shopping' I've come away with a few that catch my eye, but I'm just not sure of which would be best.

The S&W M&P series is one that seems to be a decent 'entry-level' rifle. It's about $900 or so, and I would need to add rail(s) for a weapon light.

I have heard you cannot lose with Colt, but I have yet to see one in person. I believe a good Colt would run me around $1300?

And at Academy, there is a Sig that is pricey at $1800, but it is NICE.

haha. I'm just looking for suggestions and a big thing....
Where can I buy one of these, get knowledgable help, but not get ripped off like you do at places like Carter's Country... dang their prices are high.