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mrfunnyman wrote:Ok here is my wrap up from my previous post...

been having trouble with the new 709 FTF
Problem now seems to be solved.
The main 2 things I did to solve my issue are...

1. clean the snot out of it and make sure the firing pin mechanism is well oiled (as previously noted they pack a ton of grease in these at the factory)
2. started shooting better quality ammo
today I shot 100 rounds of Remington UMC with ZERO FTF issues and just to see if this was the problem I loaded 1 mag of Monarch and sure enough the 4th monarch round was a no fire. see ya Monarch and White box Winchester I know your cheap but I'm done with you.

If you buy a less expensive gun, but can't shoot cheaper ammo, doesn't it make it a more expensive gun in the long run??

Seriously though, I've seen the response to many gun issues as, "Run better ammo." That seems like a problem to me. I want my gun to be able to run the cheapest of cheap stuff as well as the good stuff. I'll pay extra up front for a Glock or other gun that I know will always go bang, then bang again with the cheapest stuff Walmart or other places have to offer.

All forums and message boards show complaints, etc. but if you go to the Taurus forum, you'll see a MASSIVE amount of complaining about all their products. I bought a little Taurus TCP (their LCP competitor) and had issues, so I got on their forums. They now have a dedicated forum just for complaints.

Their QA is bad. They put out a lot of bad product. They put out some good ones too, so YMMV.

What I found with my TCP was that it hated the cheap WWB ammo, but does fine with all others so far. However, when I first got it, it sucked with everything... including expensive defensive ammo. I finally had to send it into Taurus, and got it back 6 weeks later. It's worked 100% with all non-WWB ammo since.

I spent a lot of money on ammo testing and breaking it in. I won't buy another Taurus product again myself, either. Yes, they have a lifetime warranty and they will generally help you when you send it in, but it's not worth the hassle. I can spend more money on other brands and not have that hassle... I'll take the latter.

The irony is that I almost never carry the TCP anyway. The whole mouse-gun thing just doesn't make me comfortable, but that's another subject for another thread.