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Rafe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:12 pm And depending on the height and hood configuration of the vehicle I'm driving, I have certain benchmarks to determine how far back I come to a stop from the car ahead of me.

For most vehicles - if you can see where the rear tires touch the road, then you have room to drive around it. Keeping space open on the sides can be difficult. If you have to push another vehicle - it will move easier if hit either forward of the front wheels, or rearward of the rear wheels, than it will if hit between them.

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chasfm11 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:59 am
Boxerrider wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:37 am So Biden's idea is to defund the local police and reorganize a force under federal guidelines and control, with leadership that is farther away and more deeply shrouded in bureaucracy? Exactly how can anyone expect that to make things better?
That hasn't been his history. I don't believe that HE has an idea and, like the rest of his party, he is following first whatever they collectively think will get him elected and afterward whatever they think will keep them in power. They have completely abandoned any idea of actually helping the people that they are supposed to represent. Let's review the overall approach
1. Turn over parts of the population to mob rule. The gangs are the political power and they are at constant war with each other.
2. Stop prosecuting many crimes. Dallas has the $75 limit for property crimes but others are worse - they don't bother with any of them
3. Release prisoners that are already convicted in large numbers.

The police are just a portion of this. It is clear that the intent is to create an environment where people are scared and will cede any amount of power that the Democrats want in order to try to regain a feeling of safety. I think it may backfire on them. Guliani was elected in NYC because of a backlash as was Richard Nixon. We are paying today for the excesses that Nixon put into policing policy.

I said, "Biden's idea," because he has been supporting federal guidelines for policing, although I believe you are correct. Biden is not an idea haver - he wants money and power for himself and plays along with the cabal to get it.
I agree with your analysis; the people behind this, really behind this, want to break down our system of government and plan to seize complete power themselves when it happens. That's why it is important to call them what they are, which is not socialist, or even communist, but fascist.
I also agree with your conclusion – I don’t think they are going to get what they want. More and more people are seeing through the media bias and political hypocrisy. Local police and governments are refusing to bow down to the legislative edicts of metropolitan officials. There are a great many of us who believe that the answer is not to abolish the Constitution but to return to it.

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03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:48 pm IMHO, it does not matter if the thug had a weapon or not. He resisted arrest. He got himself shot for resisting arrest. Them is the breaks. Nobody, that I am aware of in recent history, has been shot by police after complying with lawful orders. Maybe I have it all wrong but I thought how it works is if the officer decides to arrest you, the discussion is over. Time to allow the courts to determine your innocence or guilt. The common denominator in every one of these police killings is the dead person decided they were not going to be arrested. If their mammies really are telling them to fear the police, maybe they should tell them not to fight the police.

In the street events we've seen I completely agree. Even if you have multiple felony convictions, multiple felony warrants, and happen to be intoxicated and armed at the time - people who comply with the police don't end up shot. There is a lot of evidence showing that, with a variety of races in all roles.

If there are police events that need attention and correction they are probably the ones that happen in the home. We have seen people of varying races killed in no-knock warrant cases issued on weak evidence. So Biden's idea is to defund the local police and reorganize a force under federal guidelines and control, with leadership that is farther away and more deeply shrouded in bureaucracy? Exactly how can anyone expect that to make things better?

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philip964 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:56 am https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch ... of-looting

NPR - in defense of rioting

Osterweil utilizes many types of logical fallicies in that interview. Am I to conclude that she is OK with looters taking her books without paying and protestors burning the publisher's facilities?

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