Jilted girlfriend or somebody else that they annoyed. People who do things like this tend to make more enemies than friends.
- Jim
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- Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:21 pm
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- Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:24 pm
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Re: Houston: Convenience store robbery-murder
Three men were arrested and charged with these crimes. One was arrested on March 31, one on April 1, and one on April 7. They were middle-aged men of Mexican ethnicity.
All were arrested based on tips submitted to Crime Stoppers.
Police are still seeking a fourth suspect.
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- Jim
All were arrested based on tips submitted to Crime Stoppers.
Police are still seeking a fourth suspect.
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/lo ... ueta-death" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Jim
- Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:57 pm
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I don't know why they shot the first victim and not the clerk. At that point they were all guilty of capital murder.
As for the cameras, if they don't get the recording, shooting the cameras does no good. Most surveillance systems now store the video off site.
My only reasons for posting this incident were to warn about activity in this area and also add further evidence that "giving them what they want" does not guarantee survival.
- Jim
As for the cameras, if they don't get the recording, shooting the cameras does no good. Most surveillance systems now store the video off site.
My only reasons for posting this incident were to warn about activity in this area and also add further evidence that "giving them what they want" does not guarantee survival.
- Jim
- Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:41 pm
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Re: Houston: Convenience store robbery-murder
I agree that most criminals are idiots, but this bunch looked like they had their act together (in a murderous sociopathic way).
- Jim
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- Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:31 pm
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Re: Houston: Convenience store robbery-murder
If the license plates or entire vehicle weren't stolen, the criminals are total idiots.duckhead wrote:What good are parking lot security cameras that don't show license plates?
This video looked like it was from one of the older VCR systems that had few cameras (expensive at the time) and lousy resolution, not to forget taking about one frame per second.
- Jim
- Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:07 pm
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Most people can disguise their voice to some extent. I've heard any number of black men switch between "jive" and standard English, and young white men often imitate hip-hop. I can speak Midwestern or Southern at will.
What I 'm trying to get at is that a vague or unreliable clue is worse than no clue. It can lead to the wrong suspect being arrested or the real suspect being given a pass. At trial it can cloud the case, resulting in a not-guilty verdict or hung jury.
These guys are not going to get caught because someone happened to recognize them. If they are caught, it will be because they ran their mouths. Likely they will never be charged with this crime, though they may be caught another time or shot by a defender.
- Jim
What I 'm trying to get at is that a vague or unreliable clue is worse than no clue. It can lead to the wrong suspect being arrested or the real suspect being given a pass. At trial it can cloud the case, resulting in a not-guilty verdict or hung jury.
These guys are not going to get caught because someone happened to recognize them. If they are caught, it will be because they ran their mouths. Likely they will never be charged with this crime, though they may be caught another time or shot by a defender.
- Jim
- Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:51 am
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Re: Houston: Convenience store robbery-murder
When surveillance video clearly shows the face of the "suspect," there is a chance that some acquaintance (including cops and jailers) will recognize it.
Otherwise, in a city the size of Houston, if they say they are looking for three black men, three white men, or three Hispanic men, that narrows it down to about half a million each. Even if the robbers were three Asian women, there would still be several hundred thousand suspects.
I've said this before: race is not a simple matter of black and white. There are many mixed-race people who cannot be categorically identified by race.
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- Jim
Otherwise, in a city the size of Houston, if they say they are looking for three black men, three white men, or three Hispanic men, that narrows it down to about half a million each. Even if the robbers were three Asian women, there would still be several hundred thousand suspects.
I've said this before: race is not a simple matter of black and white. There are many mixed-race people who cannot be categorically identified by race.
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- Jim
- Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:21 am
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Re: Houston: Convenience store robbery-murder
I could not see one square millimeter of skin in that video. Even if the clerk could see something like eyelids, he may have been too shocked to take notice.Oldgringo wrote:Again, ethnicity of robber/murderers is not mentioned in the article?
As for the vehicle, it if was not stolen, the robbers were more stupid than they appeared to be.
- Jim
- Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:54 am
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Probably it was a sheet of polycarbonate to stop people from grabbing lottery tickets and other items from behind the counter.
It would not have mattered, as the robber came around the side where there was no barrier.
- Jim
It would not have mattered, as the robber came around the side where there was no barrier.
- Jim
- Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:58 pm
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Houston: Convenience store robbery-murder
At Beechnut and Hillcroft in Houston (Meyerland) around 6:20 p.m. Friday robbers burst into a gas station-convenience store, robbed, shot, and killed a customer, and robbed the store. The criminals escaped.
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Note on the surveillance video how fast it goes down.
This is not the best neighborhood in Houston, and it is near one of the worst.
- Jim
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/met ... 62224.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note on the surveillance video how fast it goes down.
This is not the best neighborhood in Houston, and it is near one of the worst.
- Jim