There's a world of difference in a Stainless Steel Seecamp .32 ($500-ish) http://www.buytelescopes.com/Products/1 ... ndard.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or .380 ($850-ish, but a couple years ago they were $1,200 on Gunbroker) http://www.gunsamerica.com/928360769/Gu ... 380acp.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and a $100 Pot metal Jimenez
I got my Seecamps in the 80s before LW died, when each was still hand made, they may still be.
Used to be a 6 month wait while he made yours after you ordered it.
Read about L W Seecamp, you'll see.
There's other pocket carry options if Seecamp is too expensive, but it sets a standard for quality/size.
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- Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:09 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carry No More
- Replies: 61
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- Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:48 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carry No More
- Replies: 61
- Views: 7526
Re: Carry No More
If accidentally un-concealing is a big concern ... one can always get a different setup/equipment.
I'd be super-surprised if anyone could spot a pocket carried Seecamp, in .380 which is what I'd carry if Campus Carry passed and a school made a "policy" that they'd expel licensed a person found carrying.
lots of types of holsters for it
http://www.google.com/search?q=seecamp& ... 24&bih=636" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.seecamp.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Alternate to Seecamp is
MPA Protector
http://www.tacticalgearmag.com/page/sma ... istols-for" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'd be super-surprised if anyone could spot a pocket carried Seecamp, in .380 which is what I'd carry if Campus Carry passed and a school made a "policy" that they'd expel licensed a person found carrying.
lots of types of holsters for it
http://www.google.com/search?q=seecamp& ... 24&bih=636" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.seecamp.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Alternate to Seecamp is
MPA Protector
http://www.tacticalgearmag.com/page/sma ... istols-for" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:54 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carry No More
- Replies: 61
- Views: 7526
Re: Carry No More
It must be true if I read it on the Internets.03Lightningrocks wrote:I will throw in one more item of importance. Don't believe everything you read on these gun forums. Many times the posters are living vicariously through other posters on varying forums. More than a few times I have read posts made here that were posted in other places by other posters. Many times years before. My point is, the stories of police harrassment of legitimate CHL holders are mostly rehashed from other internet forums. It is VERY RARE to be harrassed by the police over legally carrying a firearm. Same goes for being outed. Many of those stories are also rehashed for effect and burped out here to make for conversation. Google some of them and you will laugh. Carry your weapon with no worry of police harrassment. It is not going to happen. The cops don't know you have a gun as long as it is concealed. They don't have x-ray vision.
Statistical odds:
It's true that it's unlikely that a gun will ever be needed (hopefully)
When I quit smoking, the risk of fire in the house was lowered, I recall 2 fires, one from a faulty extension cord, one from some alcohol based hand cleaner which ignited, and no one knows how. ... I keep a fire extinguisher though.
I have had flats on 3 occasions over 50 years. I rarely have a flat tire, but I waste gas hauling around the weight of a jack and a spare anyway.
Stores I was in were robbed by gunmen on 2 occasions back in the 1970s. Statistically, I'll probably never ever need my gun, but I haul it around anyway because as with the other tools listed above, I'd rather have it.
Besides, hauling around the extra weight here in the hill country keeps my legs in shape so as I age, I'll be able to walk longer hopefully, my niece "borrowed" my leg weights years ago.
I know a deacon CHL who carries in his cars, un-chambered due to grandkids he totes around, but doesn't carry on body. I know a retired LEO CHL who owns well over a hundred 1911s, goes to all gun shows, but rarely carries a loaded gun (due to weight and clothing choices he hasn't adapted yet.... he just recently, after being licensed for years, started pocket carrying a P238.
I moved to the country, no real fear of being robbed of home invaders (though a violent criminal home invader with 3 life sentences escaped last week and was found blocks away) and no fear of being arrested for carrying,... police here pretty much wish everyone was armed and carried a spare magazine (of the type they carry) ... just in case on a lonely farm road they need help). I still see rabid skunks, a porcupine in the front yard or a rattlesnake or wild boar sometimes, haven't needed my gun, nor fire extinguisher nor spare tire and jack, but I feel undressed if I leave the house without them .... I used to feel that way if I left the house without a comb for my hair too ... time and baldness cures that one. The odds of me needing a comb now .... well ...
Thanks for coming back and expanding on your position a bit more.
I would encourage you to look for cases in Texas where a CHL holder in a justified shoot was dragged over the coals in court...
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the lack of cases you're able to find.
- Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:42 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carry No More
- Replies: 61
- Views: 7526
Re: Carry No More
I know someone who once accidentally carried a pepper spray into a Courthouse, put it in the tray when emptying pockets at metal detector and got the tray handed back ... didn't get caught, wasn't on purpose, didn't go crazy spraying people, didn't even realize they had it until lunch, that person checks better prior to entering Courthouses now.Small pepper sprays for self-defense--which are otherwise legal to carry in Texas--are prohibited in certain locations. These include the secured departure areas of airports and in certain court buildings.
Read more: Pepper Spray Laws in Texas | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6706879_pepper ... z1oeqaWY3P" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'd bet some girls forget their Lipstick/Perfume spritzer (pepper spray) too if they don't think of each purse item
http://www.google.com/search?q=pepper+s ... 24&bih=609" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I have heard of no arrests for it yet, if there have been any, and no one should intentionally break a law.
- Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:04 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carry No More
- Replies: 61
- Views: 7526
Re: Carry No More
I believe Alice at TSRA told me once that she checked and could find none either.74novaman wrote:From the OPs earlier posts, it looks like what prompted this may be his realization that he may have illegally carried on COE land.
From a quick google search, I can't find a single instance where someone has been prosecuted for carrying a firearm on COE land....
Just food for thought.
In the city of Burnet, TX, it's illegal to ride a bicycle on the sidewalk on the Courthouse Square.
I've never seen anyone get pulled over or get a ticket for doing so accidentally (or even on purpose)
I'm not advocating breaking any law, but just sayin' I wouldn't worry about accidentally breaking a law more than being robbed on purpose.
Yeah, I might ask those who I support if they'd prefer I continued to support them, or if they prefer the Government support them, if it fails to protect me should I decide to delegate the responsibility for my protection to them instead of being responsible myself.ac-mech wrote:My first priority is staying alive...I worry about the rest later...
PrideAndJoy54
I suspect (hope) most of us, when first carrying get a mental flash of lightning type revelation that :
This is an awesome responsibility, not to be taken lightly
But
That's a good thing.