I don't recall who it was, but I believe someone on this forum saw a new 30.06 sign on their bank, so he left his handgun in the car and carried in his AK-47 or something. The bank manager came over, they had a discussion, and the 30.06 sign came down.
The only places longarms are prohibited are where "firearms" are prohibited as far as I know.
A prohibition on handguns isn't a prohibition on longarms/knives/pepper spray/steel toed boots/crowbars/screwdrivers/canes/broken whiskey bottles/5-foot long keychains/6-cell flashlights/pillows......
Additionally there is no law saying longarms/knives/pepper spray/steel toed boots/crowbars/screwdrivers/canes/broken whiskey bottles/5-foot long keychains/6-cell flashlights/pillows...... must be concealed.
I don't recall how many times I heard the Criminal law professor (an attorney) say "If it isn't in the Penal Code, it isn't a crime"
( Ok, don't give him points for accuracy, his statement is flawed, but his meaning was that if there is no law against it anywhere, it isn't a crime )
I carried a broke-open loaded double barrel shotgun around town walking down busy streets in Houston near downtown (Westheimer and around Montrose area etc) daily for years; police waived as they drove by usually. Once one stopped and asked if my shotgun was legal or too short, I said it's legal, he said ok, and drove off.
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- Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:13 pm
- Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
- Topic: 30.06 Countermeasures
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- Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:40 am
- Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
- Topic: 30.06 Countermeasures
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Re: 30.06 Countermeasures
Tristor wrote:I'm trying to clarify something here, as I've seen several references to it, but I'm not understanding how this works.
So, my understanding is that Texas issues Concealed Handgun Licenses, not Concealed Weapons Licenses or Concealed Carry Weapons Permits (i.e. it only allows for concealment of handguns, not other weapons).
So in this case, with the addition of a location that has a 30.06 sign posted, what is required in order to legally conceal carry an AOW/SBS (Serbu Super Shorty comes to mind)? I've seen several people mention this being legal, and I'm definitely interested in the possibility. So, can someone be a kind dear and link me to something explaining exactly how this legal interaction works that it's okay to conceal an AOW at all, much less past a 30.06 sign? On this same note, if it's legal past a 30.06 sign, I don't see why it wouldn't be legal to conceal carry an AOW elsewhere, so I wonder what would be considered the viability of shoulder-carrying (two-point sling under jacket/shirt?) a serbu super shorty as your EDC weapon? I'm pretty sure 4 rounds of buckshot beats 10 rounds of 9mm any day of the week.
I'm told ... The thing about the Super Shorty type guns in particular, are that while they are AOWs, they are subclassified under Federal law as smooth bore pistol category AOWs. (so, they are still pistols under Federal law, even if they don't fit Texas "handgun" definition well)
However a generic non-pistol AOW might work ... example: "cane gun"/"umbrella gun" ...."Zip gun"?.........etc with proper lengths etc (all I find are antiques though)....
30.06 only applies to handguns carried by a licensee, you could sling a shortened coach gun, which still complies to legal lengths etc. under the right coat maybe ..... or other non-pistol AOW or longarm
Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if
Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club
- Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:42 am
- Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
- Topic: 30.06 Countermeasures
- Replies: 35
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Re: 30.06 Countermeasures
gigag04 wrote:I carry right past them :)
You stinker, so some anti-gun person (or new person) browsing here who doesn't know better doesn't get a wrong idea and thinks you are evil, you should explain that you have a right to as you are both a CHL AND a certified Peace Officer
(And I'm glad to have you as both, I feel safer when you young fellows who are in better shape than myself are armed and responsible, I'm too old to run away as fast as I once could)
I have never encountered a 30.06 sign except at a hospital, which didn't give me an option to "take business elsewhere, and inform them why" which would be my typical answer so I carry my knife and cane; but looking into purchasing an AOW to carry 3 or 4 rounds of "buckshot administration hardware" past the sign legally concealed....
IANAL
- Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:59 am
- Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
- Topic: 30.06 Countermeasures
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Re: 30.06 Countermeasures
Hey apple ........ MAC10ScottDLS wrote:I carry a MAC10/9mm machine gun. 36rd mags, 1200 RPM! Even though its the size of a (very large, very heavy) pistol, it is not a handgun under Texas law...And if I switch the selector to semi, I can (barely) shoot it with one hand.
OK...OK...I don't really do this, but I could legally. And I do own one.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
But seriously, my across the street neighbor was walking down the street with such a bag this morning, but he was using it to collect metal to recycle ..... he said.