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by marksiwel
Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:20 pm
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Topic: Westboro Baptist Church
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church

bronco78 wrote:What I do not understand is, how the WBC’s right to free speech negates
Texas Penal code
§ 42.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT.

(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:

(1) uses abusive, indecent, profane, or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;

(2) makes an offensive gesture or display in a public place, and the gesture or display tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;

Certainly it is foreseeable that the WBC activities will be found under a common person’s concept to be offensive, and incite an immediate breach of peace.


iratollah wrote:City of Houston probably spent $10,000 - $15,000 providing protection for four of these hate mongers to spread their venom around our city on a Sunday and Monday. If they choose to go out in public to incite and be inflammatory, why should I pay for their protection? I'm subsidizing their brand of hate. Sure they have free speech, but if they want to be stupid about it and put themselves into situations where they intend to cause conflict, why should I pay for their fun?
What about the 1st? you would see them Sue the State, drag it to the supreme court
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by marksiwel
Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:24 pm
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Topic: Westboro Baptist Church
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Views: 7132

Re: Westboro Baptist Church

iratollah wrote:City of Houston probably spent $10,000 - $15,000 providing protection for four of these hate mongers to spread their venom around our city on a Sunday and Monday. If they choose to go out in public to incite and be inflammatory, why should I pay for their protection? I'm subsidizing their brand of hate. Sure they have free speech, but if they want to be stupid about it and put themselves into situations where they intend to cause conflict, why should I pay for their fun?
You spend 10 thousand, so they come back and sue you for 1 million, then add in all the time the city will have to spend fighting that law suit if they choose to, and then the ACLU will get involved.

Now if one of them gets killed expect MORE trouble.
by marksiwel
Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:48 pm
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Topic: Westboro Baptist Church
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church

The Annoyed Man wrote:
tallmike wrote:How many of you cared when they protested at gay funerals?
I cared, and I'm a dyed in the wool evangelical Christian. I've been following these crazies since 1998, before 9/11, before Afghanistan, before Iraq, and they are evil to the bone. I tried emailing them to engage in a Christian discourse back then because I thought their hatred ran so afoul of Christ's teaching, yes, even regarding gays. You should see the vomit they spewed in response. I call strawman to your charge.
How about alittle fire scarecrow!
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I think ALOT of people DIDNT care or get too upset when they were protesting Funerals for Gays, thats why they went after the Troops because they knew it would REALLY upset people.
I'm not accusing anyone here homophobic btw.

i'd be intersted in what their email response was

We called them once at work after 9/11 Iraq war era when I worked in Lewisville at what is now the Studio Movie grill. They basically threatened to call the cops.
We pretended to be Gay Arabs, and then it all ended with us making Farm Animal Noises. I miss that job :razz:
by marksiwel
Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:41 pm
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Topic: Westboro Baptist Church
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church

gigag04 wrote:
frazzled wrote:The police have no duty to protect individual citizens. As such there is no reason for police to provide escort or protect. Remove that coverage. Let nature take its course.
Disagree.
Gotta agree to your Disagree.
If the cops dont protect them, they are just going to sue the city and get more money. Dont feed the beast
by marksiwel
Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:36 am
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Topic: Westboro Baptist Church
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Views: 7132

Re: Westboro Baptist Church

The Annoyed Man wrote:
SwimFan85 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:And by the way, they are NOT "Baptists."
I was waiting for someone to say they're "not Christian" like the Flying Over The Cukoo's Nest guys. Saying they're not baptists is a twist. What's the deal? Do they not practice adult baptism? Is there something else that disqualifies them from being baptists other than being nut jobs?

Now I'm waiting for someone to say the Pope is not Christian.
They aren't Christian either (and I never said the Pope isn't a Christian). My problem with the use of the word "Baptist" is that the Southern Baptist Convention, of which my church is an affiliate, gets a "guilt by association" bad rap from people because WBC has the word "Baptist" in their name. But they are no more Baptist than they are Christian.
I can start my own Church and call it "Baptist" that doesnt mean I have any association with the Southern Baptist Conventon, the Alliance of Baptist churches ect.

Now is the Westboro Baptist church a REAL Baptist church?
I'm staying out of that
by marksiwel
Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:11 am
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Topic: Westboro Baptist Church
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church

lrb111 wrote:
marksiwel wrote:talked to the wife about this
basically she said That as long as groups like this are around we can be pretty sure that Freedom is still alive.
The reasoning?
Because if we can let Horrible Hate spewing jerks like this run around without censorship than we are doing pretty good for the rest of us.
You think they let stuff like this happen in Iran or Saudi Arabia, how about China?
What about the right to Privacy? Abortion, and homosexuality are covered by Privacy rights.
How about libel and slander?
How about provocation from the Westboro crowd?
Libel and Slander arent criminal charges (right?) you gotta take 'em to court and then its pretty hard.
Right to Privacy? As in at a public funeral? Ehhhhhhhh, kinda hard there. I still think they are scum and if it was a friend or family members of mine I would take the jail time just to beat the jerks. As for abortion and Gay Marriage, their are still plenty of Anti-Abortion Laws in Texas and be purposed to limit abortions every session in Texas, as for gays we still have laws on the books against it and they still cant get married/civil unioned in this state.
by marksiwel
Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:39 pm
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Topic: Westboro Baptist Church
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church

talked to the wife about this
basically she said That as long as groups like this are around we can be pretty sure that Freedom is still alive.
The reasoning?
Because if we can let Horrible Hate spewing jerks like this run around without censorship than we are doing pretty good for the rest of us.
You think they let stuff like this happen in Iran or Saudi Arabia, how about China?
by marksiwel
Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:20 pm
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Topic: Westboro Baptist Church
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Views: 7132

Re: Westboro Baptist Church

boomerang wrote:Their zip code starts with 666. Coincidence?
yes


Basically they are a Harmless nuisance in the Grand Scheme of things. I'm just saying when they were in Boston protesting Gay marriage, the Cops looked the other way a few times when stuff was thrown at them.
by marksiwel
Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:22 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Westboro Baptist Church
Replies: 61
Views: 7132

Re: Westboro Baptist Church

Are they the scum of the earth? Yep
Are they covered by the 1st? yep :grumble

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