I believe we got lost some time ago as to who said what. I believe this thread should be locked by the moderators in the interest of preventing further unjustified hard feelings.
What say yea?
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- Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:55 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: University of Texas dean quits school for job in Pennsylvania because of Lone Star state’s new policy allowing guns on c
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- Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:32 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: University of Texas dean quits school for job in Pennsylvania because of Lone Star state’s new policy allowing guns on c
- Replies: 86
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Re: University of Texas dean quits school for job in Pennsylvania because of Lone Star state’s new policy allowing guns
If both of your posts were directed toward me, I apologize twice.sugar land dave wrote:Again, that was posted by koine2002. I can only stand by my comments.Jusme wrote:Abraham wrote:sugar land dave,
You posted: "it's only the loonies who make the news. There are plenty of sensible professors in many schools who are fine with firearms."
This rather reminds me of the few moderate Muslims insisting, it's only a very small minority of Muslims that are terrorists.
If what you posted is true, why then don't these sensible professors speak the heck up!
It would seem, they don't dare suffer the slings and arrows of voicing pro-gun opinion, i.e., they're a bunch of wimps!
My ire isn't directed at you, but I'm curious about they're lack of stance.
I'm inclined to think if a professor stood in favor of students being armed (or faculty for that matter) it would be in the national news.
What say you?
I don't know that Sugarland Dave or any other professor or UT official would be treated as anything but a gun nut by the media if they came in support of campus carry. Especially given the left wing media outlets pervasive in Austin. There is a very large contingent of campus carry advocates in the student population, and they don't receive any air time unless it's in a divisive article criticizing their advocacy.
I applaud Sugarland Dave for his support and the postings giving us an insider view of things, we only get one side of these issues by the proclamations of the UT President, and the resultant left wing spin by the media.
My post was directed at no one in particular. My post was directed at everyone that criticizes the faculty that may be pro gun for not standing up in support of campus carry when we don’t know all the facts.
I have more enemies than you would believe because I stood up for what was right many times. Once it almost cost me a good job but I didn’t back down. Another time it could have cost me my life. After considering what would become of my wife and children. I let it drop.
My point is we should not criticize someone for not taking a stand because of what we think we know.
- Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:10 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: University of Texas dean quits school for job in Pennsylvania because of Lone Star state’s new policy allowing guns on c
- Replies: 86
- Views: 15239
Re: University of Texas dean quits school for job in Pennsylvania because of Lone Star state’s new policy allowing guns
How eager would you be to speak up “pro gun” if you knew it could cost you your job or the chance of ever getting a promotion?Abraham wrote:Jusme,
So, these pro-gun academics should lie low because speaking up pro-gun would be too much sacrifice?
I understand that being timid, meek and mild goes a long way to promote the anti-gun agenda.
Spare me your defense of the "Don't Rock The Boat or We'll Suffer Agenda".
You posted: "There is a very large contingent of campus carry advocates in the student population" - so let them carry the water, eh? They have so little to lose, while the pro-gun academics could, gulp, be in hot water... Oh my, my, we can't have that.
Ever consider that if more pro-gun academics spoke up it would greatly help the cause of being pro-self defense? Maybe if there were enough academic voices, it just might tone down the academic anti-gun folks?
As long as these pro-gun academics sit on their hands and let others speak up, while they remain mum, I remain disgusted by their gutlessness.
WildBill,
I would heartily agree if the anti-gun academics kept quiet, but they don't.
They clamor, rage, and rave against pro-gun self defense while the pro-gun academics don't look up from their reading, hoping like crazy they aren't called upon to stand up to the anti-gun zealots.
Therefore, it's incumbent upon the pro-gun academics to get off their duffs, reluctant as they are and speak up, cuz the anti's among them aren't gonna be quiet about their radical opinions.
I had a friend that taught middle school. When he learned that a tackle football program would soon be introduced in the middle school he got together with other teachers and got a bunch of signatures of other teachers on a petition objecting to the program.
His reasons were that the bodies and brains of middle school children are not mature enough to handle tackle football and would be subject to long term injury. The administration claimed to not have the money for necessities like paper and ink for the mimeograph machine but would spend thousands of dollars on football equipment and numerous others.
The administration called a meeting during which most teachers stated they were for the program all along and had been coerced or tricked into signing the petition. They left my friend and a couple of other teachers swinging in the wind. It was insinuated that if my friend ever wanted a promotion he should start looking in other school districts.
Also ask yourself why just about everyone on this board uses a “pen name”.
I would not be so quick to criticize the “pro-gun academics” for not speaking up. I am sure many have good reasons not to.
- Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:57 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: University of Texas dean quits school for job in Pennsylvania because of Lone Star state’s new policy allowing guns on c
- Replies: 86
- Views: 15239
Re: University of Texas dean quits school for job in Pennsylvania because of Lone Star state’s new policy allowing guns
The last paragraph of the most recent release sums the whole argument up nicely.Bladed wrote:SCC just posted a PDF containing a bunch of press releases. The most recent one kind of touches on this.
http://is.gd/pqWGth
"When a member of a hate group bombs a house of worship, society doesn't blame the worshipers for scaring the attacker to the point of violence; we blame the fearmongers and hate speakers who taught the attacker to fear and hate what he doesn't understand. Neither Texas's new campus carry law, the legislators who passed it, nor the activists who pushed it are responsible for the actions of professors overwhelmed by unjustified fear. Intellectually, these professors are no different than someone whose actions are defined by an irrational fear of sharks, witchcraft, or vaccines. We can pity them for their inability to function rationally, but we must not acquiesce to their phobic delusions."
- Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:04 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: University of Texas dean quits school for job in Pennsylvania because of Lone Star state’s new policy allowing guns on c
- Replies: 86
- Views: 15239