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by VoiceofReason
Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:37 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Road Rage Shooting in Houston
Replies: 211
Views: 28312

Re: Road Rage Shooting in Houston

barstoolguru wrote:
Will you make a written promise here on the forum to never call a lawyer should you be involved in a shooting incident?
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did
~red cloud
Uhhh I think he has gone bye bye folks.

barstoolguru,
When I got my renewal I signed up for [Pre-paid legal service]. It provides a lawyer should you have to use your gun. Whether or not you pull the trigger.

It tells you on the card to call 911 then call them on a 24 hour number that would be answered by a lawyer.

Any one that would talk to the police in a situation like this without a lawyer is not too smart. I have seen some detectives work (live first hand) that were good at what they do. You may say something that is completely innocent to you but it can be twisted and come back to bite you. You can talk your way into jail if you talk to the police without a lawyer even if you are innocent.

By the way, what did those companies that you drove for tell you to do if you had an accident?
by VoiceofReason
Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:01 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Road Rage Shooting in Houston
Replies: 211
Views: 28312

Re: Road Rage Shooting in Houston

barstoolguru wrote:
§ 545.401. RECKLESS DRIVING; OFFENSE. (a) A person
commits an offense if the person drives a vehicle in wilful or
wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property
your right; her driving down the road taking turns cutting each other off is normal every day driving. What was wrong with me to think that they were endangering everyone around them with their little road rage stunt. And while all this is going on I bet they used their blinkers too
What info do you have showing her actions were "wilful " or "wanton " the LEO did not?
Scott, 23, told deputies she and Ables had been cutting each other off.

Was there someone else driving her car? Last time I checked it took two to have an accident. SHE rear ended someone. We call that failure to control your vehicle. all she had to do was let him go but she chose to fight because SHE HAD A GUN AND NO ONE WAS GOING TO PUSH HER AROUND
Wait a minute, she pulled into the parking lot, all he had to do was keep going and call 911 but he followed her into the parking lot. Sounds like a whole bunch of stupidity on the part of both parties to me. Their "game" of chicken endangered not only them but probably others on the highway
by VoiceofReason
Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:48 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Road Rage Shooting in Houston
Replies: 211
Views: 28312

Re: Road Rage Shooting in Houston

smoothoperator wrote:
barstoolguru wrote:Now correct me if I am wrong but the law says you can't claim self-defense if you instigate or antagonize another

PC §9.31. SELF-DEFENSE.
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity,
That's right. If you provoke the fight you lose the justification of self defense.
Why does everyone forget this one?
LAWS RELATING TO THE CARRYING OF A CONCEALED HANDGUN IN TEXAS
GOVERNMENT CODE
CH. 411. TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY

PC §9.31. SELF-DEFENSE.
(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the actor;
or
by VoiceofReason
Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:10 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Road Rage Shooting in Houston
Replies: 211
Views: 28312

Re: Road Rage Shooting in Houston

barstoolguru wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:Barstoolguru, your attempt to discredit this woman's defending herself appears to me to be patterned after the same style of attacks that the antis perpetrate against anyone who defends themself with a firearm. What is your real issue with this lady? Please come clean. If your issue is that she acted counter to what you would have done, please state clearly what your rules of engagement are in these exact circumstances. Be sure and not let any actual facts of this shooting get in the way since you obviously have a significantly better understanding of what actually happened than anyone else.

Anygunanywhere
It’s not a matter of discrediting the woman to defend herself, but the mere fact that a man lost his life because "SHE" though her life was in danger; so the question is was it really? The LAWYER said he broke the window. Tempered glass is hard to break with your fist just pounding on it and it would have been pushed in with the tint holding it together. Another fact is no one at a gas station heard or seen anything. She rear ended him and then for some reason drove off. I bet the guy was hopping mad and scared her but was that reason enough to shoot and kill someone. He never made entry into the car, she never got even a scratch. There was still a barrier between them and she could have drove off but instead because she had a gun she chose a different way to end it.
So is this the way thing should be handled every time someone gets scared? A man and woman have a heated verbal conversation and she gets scared and shoots him is the way to settle disputes?

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The law does not require that her life really be in danger. It only requires that in her situation, any reasonable person would believe they were in danger of death or serious bodily injury.

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