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KingofChaos wrote:I thought I had already told you speed, 21. Let the ageism begin!

“ageism”?

I would say it is more like experience and wisdom.

I am 65 and I have seen some great people that would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it more than they did. I have also seen animals that only understand fear and pain. That is how they get what they want from others and that is the only way they can be controlled.

I think the same could be said for dogs. Our spaniel loves everyone and only has to be spoken to sternly to get him to behave because he wants to please and be loved. There are also dogs that cannot be controlled and/or will not be controlled by their owner.

You might want to think about what some of us old pharts on this board have to say. Many of us have been down that road and learned some of life’s lessons the hard way.

I personally have a few scars to prove it.

Situations that happened.

Neighbor 1 had two dogs (a boxer and a mutt about half the size of the boxer) and their back yard was not fenced in. The mutt would come on our property barking at me and/or my wife. I talked to the neighbors about this problem. They apologized but did nothing.

The boxer approached my wife on our property a couple of times in a threatening manner and growled at her.

The boxer came into our built on garage one day barking and growling at me. My first thought was to shoot it. I carry a Kimber 45 and a Berretta 32. I decided not to, except as a last resort, because of the possibility of a ricochet off the concrete. I picked up a metal rod and started toward the dog. He backed out of the garage and I shut the door. I talked to the neighbors but did not make any threats. I started taking video of the dog coming on our property with the intention of filing a complaint with the Sherriff. The neighbors put up a fence. Problem solved.

Question--- I carry “Hydroshock ” in both guns. Would the 32 have gone through the boxer with enough force left to present a ricochet danger?



Neighbor 2 had a small dog. The little mutt would come up behind me as I was entering our front door and bark at me from three or four feet behind me. It scared the blazes out of me a couple of times and it would run when I turned around.

It finally grabbed my grandson’s pants leg as he was coming in the door, I talked to the woman, and she got rid of the dog.

I would have killed either dog if necessary but I would have been angry at the owner.

KingofChaos wrote:

VoiceofReason wrote:Haven't had to deal with that scum first hand very much have you?

I grew up and live in south Houston with those people you're likely to call scum. I probably have more first hand experience than you do. I see people I played with as a child and we're nothing alike at all now. I had positive influences, they didn't. I'm in college, they have felonies. But that doesn't make me better than they are. In fact, I question how much first hand experience you've had sir.
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Actually after looking on your profile I take that back. I see you use to be a Sheriff, and I thank you for putting yourself on the line for us civilians. That being said, I feel like those years in LE may have harden your heart to people.

OK this is going to be long.

My father had to quit school during the depression and go to work to help feed the family. He was drafted into WWII and was a medic, was at Normandy and was discharged after he was wounded. He got work on a garbage truck and eventually became a crane operator in a steel mill. He worked hard at an honest job for many years and supported us as well as he could.

I served four years in the military I worked for a large company fifteen years and was let go after getting injured on the job. I went back to school and got a better job. I have provided for my family as well as I have been able to.

I grew up in a poor, rough neighborhood. I have seen disadvantaged children end up in prison and I have seen them do well for themselves. I have seen children with every advantage they could have, end up in prison and I have seen them do well for themselves.

The common thread I have seen in the failures is that they made excuses and blamed everyone except themselves for their failure and the crimes they committed.

The common thread I have seen in those that have done well for themselves is that they didn’t give up. They played the hand life dealt them the best they could and kept going.

I grant you that positive influences do make a difference, but it by no means is the sole determining factor as to how a person will turn out.

There are good people and they should be dealt with as good human beings. There are two legged animals and they should be dealt with like animals.

KingofChaos wrote:

sugar land dave wrote:

KingofChaos wrote:And you get to decide on the value? Will you also be executioner?

Looking at the looting, burning, and personal attacks committed in the London riots and by criminals here and elsewhere, you do not want to ask me those questions. The same planet that creates monsters also creates those that will defend against the monsters.

I feel the line between them and us is thin and usually made entirely of things we had no control over. People often give themselves far too much credit for their success, and think other people could have just done what they did. Everyone is responsible for their actions, but necessarily response for the circumstances or environment of those actions. So to distance yourself from other human beings and treat them like vermin just comes across as asinine to me. All it could have taken is your father getting laid off instead of some other stranger, and you'd be just like those "monsters". Instead I say hit them over the head a few time, hope they learn their lesson, then rinse and repeat. I'd rather have jails full of repeat offenders than a warehouse of execution chambers. This is America after all.

Haven't had to deal with that scum first hand very much have you?

speedsix wrote:...I'd just have to tell the judge...but it's my DOG, Judge...I think he'd understand

Saw something once along the line of “My best friend ran off with my wife and dog----sure gonna to miss that dog”.