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by chabouk
Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:41 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17478

Re: Healthcare Passes

PSLOwner wrote:
marksiwel wrote: So say the Supreme Court says its all good, what then?
Then if means, surprise of surprises, that talk radio performers (e.g. Rush Limbaugh, etc) are not the constitutional scholars that they think they are.
So, you believe every SCOTUS decision has been constitutionally correct? When they've reversed themselves, were they right both times?

Do you agree with Taney's ruling in Dred Scott v. Sandford that those of African ancestry are "beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations, and so far inferior that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect"? Or that allowing those of African descent to be citizens of the U.S., "...would give to persons of the negro race, ...the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, ...the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went"?

As a parenthetical aside, it's interesting that Dred Scott, although a horrible ruling, makes two points that concern gun control. First, the court said that American citizens have the right to "...keep and carry arms wherever they went." Second, they ruled that a property owner cannot be deprived of his property merely by being in a state where ownership of that property is illegal.
by chabouk
Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:40 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17478

Re: Healthcare Passes

TLE2 wrote:The saddest thing is that this is labeled "heath care" but it's insurance regulation by the feds. Nothing more.
The crazy thing is that the single best thing that could be done to make affordable insurance available to everyone, is to invoke the "interstate commerce clause" as it was actually intended, for once: prohibit the states from outlawing interstate commerce when it comes to health insurance.

Create a true national market for health insurance, and we'd see prices plummet, for both insurance and the health care itself. Competition is wonderful like that. ;-)
by chabouk
Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:00 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17478

Re: Healthcare Passes

Oldgringo wrote:Other than possible constitutional questions and the obvious nefarious political chicanery (practiced by both parties), why do y'all have your bowels in an uproar? The folk who passed this bill don't know what's in it so why don't we wait until we have it unfolded and understood by all before we take to the streets?
Isn't that reason enough to be in an uproar?

While we're waiting, ask your parents, aunts, uncles and grandparents how Social Security and Medicare is working out for them.
Yet more reason to be strongly opposed.
by chabouk
Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:52 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17478

Re: Healthcare Passes

williamkevin wrote: Didn't John Murtha pass away in Feb. of this year? If so, why does his name appear in the "AYES" section of the vote results at the following website?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml
That was not the vote taken last night. As it says right there on the page: "H R 3962 RECORDED VOTE 7-Nov-2009 11:16 PM"
by chabouk
Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:02 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17478

Re: Healthcare Passes

G.A. Heath wrote:Since health-care has passed, when are we holding the funeral for it?
Brilliant, Sir!

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