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by philip964
Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:13 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies
Replies: 97
Views: 22837

Re: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies

E.Marquez wrote:
apostate wrote:If he didn't break the law or violate department policy, why are they paying $3 million to avoid the possibility of a lawsuit?
Very simple because law suits are cheaper to settle regardless of wrong doing then to defend.
You can be sued at the drop of a hat for very little out of pocket $$ buy in, it takes deep pockets to defend yourself against that suit, even if you have the proof and evidence that would likely result in you wining the trial. It is often a business and economic decision to just settle and make the suit go away.
I have the unfortunate personal experience to know this all first hand, and the research i did because of it leads me to believe it is so common it is a cottage industry with a certain demographic of lawyers.
The cost of the lawsuit is not just the cost of the attorney to defend you. It is primarily the cost of the judgement.

If you think the legal fees will be $100,000 through trial and you believe you will win, then you can offer $20,000 lets say, to make it go away. The opposing council may also realize he may not win and convince his client to take the money and run.

However, if the legal fees are again $100,000, however this time you feel you will lose and you fear the jury will be upset and will hit you with a $10,000,000 judgement. You settle for $3,000,000.
by philip964
Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:06 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies
Replies: 97
Views: 22837

Re: MN: Police officer shoots kills possible CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/b ... -by-police

I will have to see if I can find other sources. The man may not have been a CHL in MN. He was stopped as he matched the description of a suspect in an armed robbery that had occurred in the area. With the broken tail light, the officer said he had a reason to stop him and check his ID. This may explain the officers nervousness for what was apparently not a normal stop.

http://eastsidereviewnews.com/articles/ ... ence-store Article on Convenience store robbery July 2, 2016.

http://kstp.com/news/philando-castile-r ... 7/?cat=127 Local report with Lawyer saying he was stopped as he met the description of a suspect in a robbery.

CHL registration is private in MN, so no one can know for sure. I assume it will come out eventually.
by philip964
Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:33 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies
Replies: 97
Views: 22837

Re: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies

In Texas when I have been stopped the officer always stands at the front edge of the back seat door. Somewhat behind me.

This seems to be an excellent defensive position, he can see me, but I am in an ockward position to see him as he is behind.

In the video the officer is at the front edge of the drivers door.

I don't understand why he was in this position. Maybe police in MN are not trained as well.
by philip964
Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:18 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies
Replies: 97
Views: 22837

Re: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies

parabelum wrote:
WTR wrote:
parabelum wrote:LSUTiger,

That's a wild stop. Glad everyone walked away unharmed.

For LEO's on this forum a question I have... do you notice or have you noticed an uptick in rookies coming in who are book smart collage grads with little to no street smarts, while those who may not necessarily have a degree but who are ex-military / street savvy, maybe even with full sleeve tattoos :shock: are getting rejected?

I think the question is loaded, but I have a hunch, based on what I have heard and seen, that due to various bureaucratic reasons and general breakdown in true leadership, we have a whole lot of officers out on the streets who would have never gotten hired on even as recent as late 90's. Seems that officers then had more grit and stamina and were equipped with more composure to operate under stress.

:rules:
I know that Texas DPS Troopers are the most polite and profession acting Officers I have dealt with. I don't know about the current requirements, but when I was young, the DPS required 60 hours of college level courses before you could apply to an academy.
I agree on TX DPS. Every encounter I've personally had with TX State Trooper has been 100% positive with no issues whatsoever.
I agree on TX Law Enforcement. Every encounter I've had with the police here in Texas has been very professional.


The news is reporting that the man was still seat belted in the car.
by philip964
Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:53 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies
Replies: 97
Views: 22837

Re: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies

AJSully421 wrote:[Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton jump on their phones to find the next flight from Baton Rouge to Minnesota.]
Jesse and Al may have something to actually complain about with this one.

Unlike the videotaped police shooting the day before with this one there is no mention of the dead man being combative or confrontational. So in this case was the mans race a factor or was it the fact he was a CHL.
by philip964
Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:10 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies
Replies: 97
Views: 22837

MN: Police officer shoots kills CHL in traffic stop streamed live on Facebook as he dies

http://www.click2houston.com/news/natio ... ks-outrage

CHL disclosed he was armed during traffic stop for a broken tail light. Asked for his license, shot and killed as he reached for his wallet. Woman and small child in the car. Woman live streamed his death on Facebook

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