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by philip964
Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:01 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: TSA at Amtrak Austin
Replies: 46
Views: 14678

Re: TSA at Amtrak Austin

RX8er wrote:I know it is a fine line but isn't this a violation of the 4th, especially since they had "drug" sniffing dogs?
exactly
by philip964
Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:55 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: TSA at Amtrak Austin
Replies: 46
Views: 14678

Re: TSA at Amtrak Austin

cb1000rider wrote:
philip964 wrote:Since we are talking about Amtrak, I will relate a story of an acquaintance.
Story snipped..
You're speaking of James Bourgeois:
But the bottom line is that he wasn't arrested for taking photos. He was arrested for trespassing... Of course, the area that he was trespassing in wasn't posted from the terminal where he got off.

Mr. Bourgeois was warned that he was trespassing and then arrested when he suggested that Amtrak was publically funded.

Sounds like a POP arrest to me, but the fact is that he was arrested for trespassing, not taking photos. The only thing I can see in dispute was if the PD can arrest in an area that isn't properly posted.

It's no different than getting arrested in an area like a mall, where the front entrance has 30.06 signs and you choose to come in one of the side entrances.

Amtrak has arrested people in NY for similar (harmless) activities...

Still, as a pilot,I'll take Amtrak over the TSA any day.
Small world. Didn't know about any trespassing or any warnings. I may have received a sanitized version from his best friend.

Wow everything is on line now, here is a link to his story. http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=164112" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Not a retiree from oil but pharma.
by philip964
Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:24 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: TSA at Amtrak Austin
Replies: 46
Views: 14678

Re: TSA at Amtrak Austin

Since we are talking about Amtrak, I will relate a story of an acquaintance.

Single, and a train nut. Retired from a big oil company and bought a one month rail pass and decided to see America by him self.

Got on the Amtrak in Houston headed East. The Train stopped in New Orleans for an hour layover. Got off the train and started photographing the train, the engine, etc. Amtrak employee asked him what he was doing. Kinda pestered him with questions until an Amtrak security officer arrived. Who continued to pester him with questions. Until the New Orleans police arrived where he was arrested and put in a "hell hole" of a jail in downtown New Orleans.

Got out just in time before Katrina hit. Ended up providing his home in Houston for the attorneys who got him out of jail.

Never heard how his criminal or civil case worked out. But he didn't end up seeing America on Amtrak.

So you don't have to be carrying a gun to have problems with Amtrak, a camera is enough.

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