Well so much for typing "gun laws Arizona" in google as my research.terryg wrote:That's not true - they changed the law recently allowing CC without a permit.philip964 wrote: Arizona does not permit concealed carry without a permit.
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- Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:49 pm
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- Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:16 pm
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The gun control legislation is starting already http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47338.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Like the Virginia Tech shooting, the deranged individual was allowed to purchase a gun, because he had not been convicted of a serious crime "yet" and had not been officially been labeled "crazy". But, unlike the Virginia Tech shooting, this guy was not in a "gun free zone". Arizona does not permit concealed carry without a permit. I suspect he was in violation of that law at least.
Had it been a gun free zone, we could have said "so see there", no one could defend themselves. But here it was Arizona, lots of people have guns in Arizona and they allow concealed carry.
What is the solution? We don't have "precrime" yet. You can't arrest someone until they really commit a crime. These deranged people like to make their first crime a big one.
We can blame his parents, but that does not do much good. He was an adult, but of course like all parents they supported him, gave him an nice allowance so he could buy a gun. And looked the other way at his increasingly bizarre actions and hoped he would grow out of it. Just like the Columbine High School parents, they never looked in his room.
Pass a urine test before you buy a gun. Seemed to work for the military, they figured out he was no good when he applied.
We need to come up with something, because if the people from New York come up with it first, we may not like their solution very much.
Like the Virginia Tech shooting, the deranged individual was allowed to purchase a gun, because he had not been convicted of a serious crime "yet" and had not been officially been labeled "crazy". But, unlike the Virginia Tech shooting, this guy was not in a "gun free zone". Arizona does not permit concealed carry without a permit. I suspect he was in violation of that law at least.
Had it been a gun free zone, we could have said "so see there", no one could defend themselves. But here it was Arizona, lots of people have guns in Arizona and they allow concealed carry.
What is the solution? We don't have "precrime" yet. You can't arrest someone until they really commit a crime. These deranged people like to make their first crime a big one.
We can blame his parents, but that does not do much good. He was an adult, but of course like all parents they supported him, gave him an nice allowance so he could buy a gun. And looked the other way at his increasingly bizarre actions and hoped he would grow out of it. Just like the Columbine High School parents, they never looked in his room.
Pass a urine test before you buy a gun. Seemed to work for the military, they figured out he was no good when he applied.
We need to come up with something, because if the people from New York come up with it first, we may not like their solution very much.
- Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:38 am
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- Topic: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
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There was a report that the shooter felt the government was tapping his phone. This and his age of 22 would indicate he might have paranoid schizophrenia.
Which would of course be a get out of jail free card.
My sincere sympathy and sorrow for the victims and their families. I presume among the dead and wounded are real heroes, who probably threw their bodies in harms way to protect others or to stop this madman. We may never know.
Very very sad.
Which would of course be a get out of jail free card.
My sincere sympathy and sorrow for the victims and their families. I presume among the dead and wounded are real heroes, who probably threw their bodies in harms way to protect others or to stop this madman. We may never know.
Very very sad.