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Panda wrote:

Valor wrote:

mojo84 wrote:The belief/fear for your life or fear of serious bodily injury is the standard. At least that is the way I understand it. Is that not the case?

Could it not be argued that Martin feared for his life? He felt he was being followed by a "creepy..." When they confronted one another, Zimmerman began to reach in his pocket for, at the time an unknown object. Martin may have then at that time struck Zimmerman in the face out of fear for his life. Should Martin have waited for a deadly weapon to be produced? Because it is fact that Zimmerman conceded and later used a deadly weapon resulting in death. This is not an open and close case folks. The jurors have a lot to consider.

I can argue that I am afraid of clowns but that doesn't justify me shooting the clown at my neighbors kids birthday party. Not legally at least.

ScooterSissy wrote:Sorry man, but self-defense does not require any "life threatening" injuries. As a matter of fact, they don't require any injuries at all. No one should have to wait until they've been seriously injured before they are justified in defending themselves.

The fact that he was already injured only shows he exercised some restraint before defending himself. Martin didn't bash is head, then stand up and say "I'm done, you can go home now". He not only continued bashing, but had already expressed an intent to kill Zimmerman.

BKRushing wrote:
Big difference between a hero complex and a hero. Zimmerman was playing cop without the training an LEO has and made poor choices with a tragic outcome.

BKRushing wrote:Latest news has it that the results of an FBI Investigation into the shooting concluded Zimmerman did not racially profile Trayvon Martin. I for one am glad to hear that. I think people throw the race card a little too quickly in a lot of cases like these.

Oldgringo wrote:
If your head stayed in the vehicle where it belonged, it wouldn't get bashed on the ground.

57Coastie wrote:

Right2Carry wrote:...This is why I believe that anyone threatening or participating in riots should be charged with domestic terrorism.

I notice that the House passed the $642 billion defense budget yesterday, retaining the provision, over the administration's objection, permitting the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens suspected of terrorism.

Do we ship them off to Guantanamo? Just askin'.

Jim

Jusster wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:Everybody is condemning Zimmerman for acting like a wannabe cop.
Few are condemning Martin for acting like a thug (not wannabe). The reason he wouldn't call 911 if he felt "the old fat white-boy" was a threat was that it would ruin his street cred. He'd rather resolve the situation himself.

Yes, that is supposition, too.

How was he acting like a thug wanna be that day? Was it the skittles? The iced tea? Walking home in the rain? Oh wait, is it the grey hoodie, blue jeans, and white sneakers?

Jusster