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jimlongley wrote:Seems to me "they" said the same sort of thing about allowing teenagers to vote back in the 60s.

An excellent point, Jim.

It's worth remembering that, at some point in history, "they" have said similar things about women, people of colour and most everybody else who wasn't part of their clique. Oddly enough, despite all the battles that "they" have lost over the years, the world has yet to come to an end.

AndyC wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:Andy, don't confuse a reporter with facts.

You know, I have zero problem with anyone taking an opposing viewpoint - but adults should be well beyond having to flat-out lie in order to win a debate, and that sort of deception should be spot-lit and shown for the craven untruth that it is.

Razgriz wrote:Our side can only benefit from an educated populous, while the other side would rather have the "useful idiots", as referred to by either Stalin or Marx, can't remember (someone check this if you could).

V.I. Lenin, iirc.