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by der Teufel
Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:09 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Turn in your Neighbor for $1000 - Newark, NJ
Replies: 33
Views: 3484

Re: Turn in your Neighbor for $1000 - Newark, NJ

74novaman wrote:
der Teufel wrote:On the other hand, when you see a crime in progress, don't you call 911? He did specify "illegal" guns.

What about Neighborhood Watch programs? Citizens watching out for each other and reporting problems. Some times it is good when people don't simply "mind their own business." Just because this program involves guns doesn't automatically mean it's a bad idea.
Absolutely I would call 911 if I saw a strange van in front of a neighbors house with a bunch of guys loading up furniture. I just have a feeling most people, especially in NJ, will see an "illegal" gun every time they see anyone with a long case being carried out to a car, or any gun. Seems to me this will create a lot of harassment of legal gun owners, which I'm sure the mayor won't mind.

You seem to have a lot of faith in the sheeple of NJ's ability to differentiate between a legal and illegal gun. I just don't share your positive outlook I guess. :biggrinjester:
You bring up valid points. I don't have a problem with the instance you describe about someone loading up the neighbors furniture, and if I saw a shootout going on among a group of teenagers, or even if they were 'merely' waving guns around and yelling at each other, I'd probably call 911. However, I understand and agree with your concern that this system could be ripe for abuse and misuse. Like a previous poster said, there's already a reporting system -- call 911.
by der Teufel
Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:13 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Turn in your Neighbor for $1000 - Newark, NJ
Replies: 33
Views: 3484

Re: Turn in your Neighbor for $1000 - Newark, NJ

74novaman wrote:
srothstein wrote:I guess I am weird but I don't see a problem with the program. I see it being abused by gang members getting revenge on their opposition but the basic program is not illegal or immoral.
Whatever happened to minding your own business? I feel it is fairly immoral to attempt to set up citizens to watch each other on behalf of the government. Sounds an awful lot like tyranny to me, which I would equate with immorality.

You make some good points, but in the end I view things like this as the beginning of a slippery slope. If we can be conditioned to "inform" on our neighbors for one thing, how long before we're expected to inform on each other for everything else the mayor or anyone else "in charge" decides shouldn't be going on?
On the other hand, when you see a crime in progress, don't you call 911? He did specify "illegal" guns.

What about Neighborhood Watch programs? Citizens watching out for each other and reporting problems. Some times it is good when people don't simply "mind their own business." Just because this program involves guns doesn't automatically mean it's a bad idea.

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