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Thanks chamberc, 17.67 for the hornady and I can wait on sportsman guide. 50 bucks at bull in garland. On sportman I can double the ammo and save a little. How does the Magtech work for you or others. I like to shoot what I carry.

In 45 acp. 230 gr. jhp+p in hornady or corbon for 20 rounds, is 50 bucks overboard or is it about right? Anyone found that cheaper in dallas area?

Is critical defense load in +p? Just a question.

About 3 mos. ago I called B&S in Garland and they had 380. hornady jhp+p 20 round box 89.99. Dang.