Larry you are correct on both counts. And 4-H is actually administered by the USDA as part of CSREES(Cooperative State Research, Education, and Extension Service), which in turn is administered by the Texas A&M and Prairie View A&M Agricultural Extension Service.LarryH wrote:FFA is usually associated with a particular school, but 4H is (IMHO) completely independent of the local schools (at least that was the case fifty or so years ago when I participated).
FFA is chartered by the U.S. Congress, and comes under the auspices of the Dept. of Education, and trickles down to state then local educational systems.