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I saw this on the news this morning and wondered what the connection is. The news report said that staff had no idea who the man is. That doesn't mean much. This is very sad news for that man's family and bad news for Carter BloodCare. Carter BloodCare, with their anti-gun policies and the posting of both .06 and .07 signs has been thrust into the news in a negative light. There is a high probability that there will be a connection and reason why this location was chosen, but we may never know what that connection is. Some people will point to their anti-gun policies and that their signs did nothing to prevent this and that it could have been much worse if this donor center were open and people were there. That is actually the one bright spot in this horrible tragedy, that no one else was hurt.

chasfm11 wrote:

C-dub wrote:

chasfm11 wrote:

RPBrown wrote:I always go to the mobile unit at the Dallas gun show. Benighted the Scottish Rite Hospital. I work the SR booth to get people to donate. It will also get you free admission to the show

I searched the calendars and could find no dates for a gun show in Dallas. I'm anxious to make a blood donation if someone can share a date to do it.
Free admission to the gun show is way better than a t-shirt.

Kind of ironic if they setup to collect blood at a gun show after recently posting .06 and .07 signs at all of their fixed sites, isn't it?

Such is the Liberal way of thinking. Probably the most ironic part of this is that they are making their stores "safer for our customers and employees" by banning the safest group of Texas citizens. I'm still amazed at the 2014 statistics where the number of licenses increased by 200,000 and the crime rate among license holders continued to improve versus the general population. Sure, let's make everything safer by keeping the ones that have a proven record of being 22 times better. SMH. Their advertising pleads the worthy cases of the many people who need blood - until their politics gets in the way.

It is politics some, but they also think it is a safety factor. There is a number of people that faint after donating and they are afraid that something will happen and the gun will fall out and discharge or that when the person regains consciousness they might be confused and pull their gun out and hurt someone. If this were really a valid issue they wouldn't allow LEOs to donate while armed. They actually tried to restrict LEOs from donating while armed and they threw a fit and Carter backed off.

chasfm11 wrote:

RPBrown wrote:I always go to the mobile unit at the Dallas gun show. Benighted the Scottish Rite Hospital. I work the SR booth to get people to donate. It will also get you free admission to the show

I searched the calendars and could find no dates for a gun show in Dallas. I'm anxious to make a blood donation if someone can share a date to do it.
Free admission to the gun show is way better than a t-shirt.

Kind of ironic if they setup to collect blood at a gun show after recently posting .06 and .07 signs at all of their fixed sites, isn't it?

I would encourage as many as possible to call and complain about this semi new policy. They have always had the policy of not allowing people do donate while carrying, but were woefully misinformed about how to notify CHLers sufficiently. It appears with the implementation of OC that they have now received correct information and have posted correct signage to notify all of their policy.

The problem with choosing another business that allows CC or OC is that this is a very narrow niche and in this area there is only one other business and that is the American Red Cross (ARC). I would rather not do business with them if I could. Do a search for how many times they've been fined by the FDA and for how much and why. They seem to be doing better, but all too often they took the mindset that the laws that pertained to local community blood centers did not apply to them. There is rarely another choice besides a community blood center and the ARC, but sometimes there is a hospital large enough that will collect their own for use in their hospital or their hospital system.

rotor wrote:To houndog and C-dub, I am not critical of your donating and like I said I am a multi-gallon donor myself. And if I had to bet, the outstanding type of citizens that make up the LTC group are probably much more likely to donate than the average population. But you are donating to a business and if you want to get the signs down you need to say either that you don't care or will abstain from going to that business. There are a lot of business that are "non-profit" but they are still a business. Check up sometime and see what they pay their CEO at these non-profits and be prepared for the shock of your life. The tax returns are all on the internet.

In 2012, Carter BloodCare's CEO, also a doctor, was only paid about $640k for a business that took in almost $127M. I do understand your position that it is a business and that is correct. The ARC CEO and President was paid about $650k in 2009, while the ARC took in a shade over $2B. All in all, I don't think these salaries are that outrageous for these two. They're just a little different than your major chain store or megaconglomerate that pays their heads multiple millions. For many of those they often make 10-40 times what a middle manager might make, but I also happen to know that for Carter BloodCare this multiple is only around 4-7. And by not patronizing Exxon or Microsoft, you're not hurting the public as much as not donating a unit of blood or platelets.

rotor wrote:I have in the past donated but you know that this is a money making business and although you may feel better donating wait until you see how much you have to pay to get blood at a hospital. My local facility is The Red Cross but my local city does not use that blood but actually buys their blood from Oklahoma City. I too was a multi gallon donor but I am a little bitter about the business aspect of your free donation. With all the meds I take I can not donate anymore anyhow. You know the story though, if they post you can take your business elsewhere. This is really just another business.

Blood centers don't make that much money from a unit of blood. Carter BloodCare is a non-profit. A unit of packed red cells is about $220 to the hospitals. The price can go up quickly depending on the rarity or if it is antigen negative for certain antigens or multiple antigens. A hospital will usually at least double the cost of a unit without having really done anything to it besides cross-matching it to the patient/recipient. Other components maybe be tripled or more of the cost from the blood center providing that component to the hospital.

suthdj wrote:I went there over a year ago and it seems I am blocked indefinitely from giving blood, apparently because of my over seas travel which only amount to Europe and China. What ever happened to beggars can't be choosers. So I will happily keep my blood to myself.

Those restrictions are set by the FDA.