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by C-dub
Tue May 26, 2015 11:25 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Telling the LEO?
Replies: 28
Views: 3486

Re: Telling the LEO?

The Wall wrote:
thetexan wrote:
carlson1 wrote:

A run (10/28) on your license plate does not reveal you are a CHL holder.
Are you certain about that?

I shouldn't have implied the 'something to prove' with such a broad brush. I am irritated at chls who carry and push the envelope just because they can in order to make a point that many times doesn't need to be made. That non-cooperative, in-you-face personality bugs me, and I had just gotten through having a discussion with one of those types. To everyone who isn't that way I appologize. To those who are that way, (and by that I mean those who deliberately look for opportunities to shove their 2nd amendment in the face of authority), if the shoe fits.

Having said all that I agree that, in general, you don't need to do anything but follow the law. Nothing else is required. Although, I am interested to hear more about running license plates and IDs and whether chl info is revealed during that process and how we know that.

tex
Driver's license, yes.

License plate, no.

However, I have always wondered if the DL can be obtained from determining the registered owner from a license plate.
I can tell you and my wife can also tell you it does show up when they run your license. She got stopped for a headlight being out and didn't tell them she had a CHL. He came back to the car and asked her about it. She wasn't carrying at the time but I was sitting in the passenger seat. He didn't say a thing to me and I didn't say a thing to him. She just got a verbal warning to get it fixed.
by C-dub
Mon May 25, 2015 10:36 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Telling the LEO?
Replies: 28
Views: 3486

Re: Telling the LEO?

There also seems to be some concern over the difference between failure to display when asked for ID versus not having it with us at all. The penalty for failure to display has been removed, but when an officer discovers that you have a CHL, after running your DL, you will be asked about it at that time. Being unable to produce a license at that time will probably result in an Unlicensed Carrying Weapon charge. I'm more than a little perturbed by this because the license is still valid and can be confirmed even though it is not in our possession at the time. It's just written in the law that we have to have it with us if we are carrying.

I don't like it, but that's the way it is. Some people have images of their insurance on their phones and are able to show that. Texas' law about identification doesn't actually require anyone to show an officer the physical license when required, but only that one must identify themselves. If I provide my name and address and birth date I have satisfied that requirement. I think failure to produce a CHL when carrying is currently a Class A misdemeanor. There was an attempt to increase that to a felony due to open carry likely passing this go around. I think that amendment was pulled. I wish it could be changed that a true unlicensed situation would either stay a Class A or maybe be bumped up to a felony. However, I think that for someone with a valid CHL who happened to forget their license at home there shouldn't be any penalty or at the most a small fine, like what is being done to carrying past a 30.06 sign.

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