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by dicion
Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:52 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Concealed Carry
Replies: 19
Views: 2220

Re: Concealed Carry

tarkus wrote:
Shorts wrote:Haven't verified. How do I go about that?
Walk in and ask to see their ABC license.
Or just call it their 'Liquor Licence'.

It should be displayed somewhere that anyone can read it, look around for a bunch of licenses and such on the wall together. Then look for the one that says "TABC Mixed Beverage Permit" on it.
by dicion
Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:54 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Concealed Carry
Replies: 19
Views: 2220

Re: Concealed Carry

Shorts wrote:We've gone into a "bar and grill" for dinner on a Friday night, a late dinner - like 8pm dinner once DH finally got home from work. They're still serving food, the bar band started playing at 9pm when the lights dimmed. At any rate, I did not feel comfortable there. There was no 30.06. There was no 51% sign.

I didn't relax until we left.

Was I wrong to carry there?
Depends. Did you check their liquor license to see if it was a 51% location?

The burden of proof is on Us, we have to be proactive in checking. If there's no sign, or a question about the sign posted, it's up to Us to verify their license, plain and simple.
by dicion
Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Concealed Carry
Replies: 19
Views: 2220

Re: Concealed Carry

srothstein wrote:You are both saying the same basic thing, but there is a major difference. Under the current law, the TABC makes the 51% determination. It has two effects. the first is the requirement to post the sign and the second is the premises are off limits.

But the important part for this discussion is that the place is off limits to a CHL whether or not they obey the rules to post the sign. If TABC says they are 51%, they are off limits even if they are also breaking the laws by not posting.
:iagree:

However, if they ARE breaking the law by not posting the sign, a nice call to TABC is warranted, and they will probably be fined if found to be improperly (or not at all) posted.

The TABC folks I've spoken to in the past were very friendly and helpful and did not seem dismissive of my claim at all. They stated that they would immediately investigate it. I don't know if they did or not, as I have not been back to the establishment I reported since, however, the gentleman I spoke with seemed genuinely interested in my claim.

It felt to me that they do not get very many citizen complaints about the signs, so when I called, they were all about it. I think we should all make it a duty of ours to call and report any establishments that are improperly posting signs, as it can have very Real, and Serious consequences for US, if something happens at one of those locations, and it is improperly posted.

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