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sugar land dave wrote:Nothing quite as chilling as the sound of a pump action slide being racked.

Or comforting when you're on the good end of it.

Cutter wrote:Even if my rifle, shotguns and spare sidearm have a cable lock, then one sidearm does not and is on me and ready to go.

Take a look at the LJ3 here: http://www.copsplus.com/prodnum2323.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (pistol version LJ1 http://www.copsplus.com/prodnum2322.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) You can get a pistol and a shotgun one keyed alike so you just need one key to put the pistol away and get the shotgun out at bedtime, or vice versa in the morning. It looks like it would be a lot less of a pain to get on and off, and less likely to scuff the gun than a cable lock.

Note, however, that the shotgun version, as far as I know, only works for right-side-eject guns, since it has a piece that enters the ejection port to fully disable the gun. This also requires that the chamber be left open, but it should be a simple matter to situate it so that you just unlock it and leave the gun in unless it's needed.

fickman wrote:FWIW, an ingenious kid can also open a safe - either by watching over your shoulder,

I had a cowoker whose 6-year-old could "read" any password or PIN as it was entered. They tested him against a 130WPM typist and he got an 8-character password on the second try.

fickman wrote:

KD5NRH wrote:Now I really want to head out to the land with my wife's single-shot 20ga and see how fast I can get a second shot off.

Cool clip. . . I'd be interested to try my dad's single-shot 16 gauge and see what I can do. Oddly enough, that sucker kicks more than my 12 gauges. . . if you can find the 16 ga ammo.

I will say one thing for all those little Handi-Rifle knockoffs; (hers is a Pumbaa, the Rossi off-brand) you'd better make sure both ends of the barrel are pointed in a safe direction when you break it open. That ejector's strong, and a high-brass hull to the forehead hurts. It'll toss a loaded round into an 8ft ceiling.

The simple answer from Clint Smith: http://www.gunsmagazine.com/webblastTRDS.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now I really want to head out to the land with my wife's single-shot 20ga and see how fast I can get a second shot off.

Stupid wrote:1. your pumping sound gives away your position and might cause your target to fire at the sound

If you don't keep a round chambered, you're going to have to make noise with the semiauto too. If you do keep one chambered, it's just as unsafe as the pump would be.

xpur3l0g1cx wrote:Would you rather take the hog with a pistol or a shotgun? You dont want to chance it getting back up and hurting you so a shotgun would apply.

If I want the meat, .357Mag. If I just want the pig absolutely, undeniably dead right now and don't care about meat or hide, .243Win. If he's charging me, then 00Buck becomes an option, but I wish I'd taken some pictures of the pig I pink-misted with a hot .243 load. Blew out the exit-side shoulder, trashed the hide and wasted a *lot* of meat. 80gr at 3,600fps is a lot of energy to dump in a short distance. I could have gutted it through the exit wound without a knife.