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Thought I'd post the local TV news coverage of this event for others to see ...

KEYE-CBS http://weareaustin.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=93575" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - I like KEYE's coverage best

KVUE-ABC http://www.kvue.com/news/Guns-on-campus ... 76319.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

KXAN-NBC http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/camp ... ban-debate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

KTBC-Fox http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stor ... 0928-ktbcw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hey all, I met Codename46 and his fellow UT SCCC members last night (University of Texas Students for Concealed Carry on Campus) at this event, furnished the cash that some of the forum members sent me via Pay Pal, and listened to John Lott's presentation. This is a great group of young men and women working hard to bring this very important issue to light on college campuses. In spite of the morning's events on campus and their financial backing dropping out, they soldiered on and made this event happen. Kudos to them for their efforts ....

Also, just wanted to let y'all know how appreciative they were of the donations. And to encourage more forum members here to get involved and support whichever Texas SCCC chapter you prefer (there are chapters at most of the larger public universities in Texas, I believe). This is a dedicated group that is working hard to push this issue to the forefront. They need and deserve the support of all RKBA believers in Texas.

Also, some notes that interested me about Dr. Lott's presentation (I'd heard/read a lot of his information before, but below is some newer information - at least for me). I'm hoping codename46 and his buddies will have the video of the presentation posted on YouTube and linked here at some point:

* On employee parking lot issue and businesses' general anti-gun stance for employees, Lott blames OSHA regs for a lot of this, which is an angle I have not yet heard. He says he's talkd to numerous higher ups at big companies who don't want to ban guns from workplace, but say OSHA regs could wind up putting the company in hot water if something went wrong. He was specifically answering a question about bank employees being told to react passively to a bank robbery.

* On Lott's personal opinion of how to improve Texas CHL
1. Lower fees
2. Reduce training requirements

* Interesting stat on what Lott calls "hot burglaries" (basically resident is home when burglar enters) ... only 13% of all home burgarlies in US are "hot" - in England with handgun ban and no right to self defense in the home .... 60% of all home burgarlies are "hot" .... also of convicts interviewed in both countries, US criminals spend twice as long "casing" a home as criminals in England do

* In the last few decades, where did the worst two high school shootings in the world occur? .... Germany

* Israeli experience - before Israel started allowing civilian concealed carry in 1972, Islamic terrorist most often used machine guns for terrorist attacks - basically walk into a crowded public place and open fire with 5 or 6 men with automatic weapons .... after 1972, more use of bombs. No "technological" advancement at that time to make bombs a better choice after 72 than it was before 72 . Also Israelis tried huge build up of police presense, but found that terrorists either waited for a window of opportunity when police were not in vicinity OR they simply shot the police (who are obviously OPEN CARRYING) first, then killed everyone else. This convinced the Israelis to allow concealed carry.

* Armed commercial airline pilots - from 1920s until 1960s, commercial airline pilots were REQUIRED to carry sidearms on all US flights .... until 1979 it was voluntary. After 1979 it was no longer allowed. Now it is again voluntary after events of 9/11

Hey all, dicion, TAM, and botri all have my Pay Pal connected email address. Don't want to post it publicly, but ask one of them via PM and they have my permission to give it to you. If you send money, be sure to email me to that address so I know who sent what. Will give cash to codename46 at event - courtesy of all of us who contribute.

PMs responded to ....

and Codename46, look for me I'll be there .... dark hair, glasses, goatee beard, blue 5.11 covert casual shirt (and if you have X-ray vision - Crossbreed with G27 )

If I make it tonight, I'll pitch in some cash to help out. Really trying/hoping to make it now.

Also I'll do this ... anyone who contributes cash (at least $20?) toward this I'll give them half-price on their next CHL renewal or a new license class. Will have to get with Codename46 to figure out who contributed but will worry about logistics of that later.

I just google mapped this location ... http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... 4&t=h&z=17" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Awfully close to PCL where this shooting took place, I assume there will be no problem accessing this area at 6 pm? Or do y'all know that for sure yet?

Codename46 wrote:BREAKING NEWS

The event will still be hosted tonight. Room has been changed to the Brave New Books conference room. 1904 Guadalupe Street. It is off-campus. You can carry. Same time (6PM).

OUTSTANDING! I think I might actually stop by now.

Codename46 wrote:The event is open to everyone. The School of Law is being bureaucratic and have been throughout the process. We will also be selling Students for Concealed Carry on Campus t-shirts for $10. Also there will be pizza.



Thanks everyone for their support.

CompVest wrote:I think it is great that the talk is being held in a "gun free zone". The college is allowing the event. This is another step in the right direction. More and more colleges are allowing more and more gun related activities such as the classroom portion of the CHL class and gun clubs. The more the message is heard on campus the more support generated for Campus Carry.

We hosted a CHL class on campus last semester and had 60 students and faculty members take the class. We are going to do it again next spring right when the Legislative session opens. If anyone has taken a class with a CHL Instructor named Michael Cargill, please thank him for all the support he's given us.

I saw those same shirts in Aggie Maroon in another thread. I guess each chapter is selling shirt's in its own school's colors? I'd love to have one of those (do they come in XXXL so I can conceal my gun under them?


Of course, if I wear one in burnt orange my Aggie wife will shoot me .... who would I contact to get one in Aggie maroon or better yet UH red?

Tell Bill Powers I said "hi" and that he's still wrong ... viewtopic.php?f=90&t=25100&p=285317&hil ... rs#p285317" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe if a few of the UT football players had been carrying they could've stopped UCLA from scoring (sorry, couldn't resist)

yep, four years of it for me too (actually, five, but I lost some credits in transfer, and changed majors, and really no one actually graduates in four years and .... )

Purplehood beat me to it, but I gotta wonder why this is being held "on campus" where carry is restricted. I'd like to hear the guy speak, but won't be venturing into the gun-free zone to do so.