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by RHenriksen
Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:13 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WHEW! Weird experience on Saturday at HEB
Replies: 78
Views: 9336

Re: WHEW! Weird experience on Saturday at HEB

Outstanding! Glad you invested the time to help HEB & the other patrons from having to deal with this guy again. (Until he's released.... :smash: )
LaserTex wrote:I was describing the man to paint a thorough picture while asking for advice. It had nothing to do with his social value. It had to do with an older man grabbing my cart and pulling it about 4 feet away from me (I had to take a large step to grab the front of the cart.)

Further update - I did contact the Manager of the HEB on Monday. He called the police to take a report. I retold the story and was told by the SAPD officer that "it would be a cold day in "a warm place" before an officer would have arrested me." HEB Manager also swore out a tresspass order to keep the guy off HEB property.
I was called on Tuesday afternoon by the manager to say that the man had come back to the HEB store, police were called and he was arrested and taken by the police in handcuffs.

Thank you to everyone for helping me wrap my head around this. I am still new (since January 2009) to carrying but in all honesty, I probably would have said the same thing even if I wasn't CHL. The whole incident, from start to finish lasted about 10 seconds. That resulted in an hour and a half writing my statement and being interviewed by the officers. Now I get to wait to be called to testify if this goes to trial. Hopefully it won't.

Thanks again all.

Doug :txflag:
by RHenriksen
Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:19 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WHEW! Weird experience on Saturday at HEB
Replies: 78
Views: 9336

Re: WHEW! Weird experience on Saturday at HEB

I think you're mischaracterizing the panhandler's behavior by using the word 'begging'. Grabbing the OP's cart and saying that he was not going to return it without payment is *not* 'begging'.

shootthesheet wrote:I weigh words by what would happen if a LEO was called. It seems the O.P. had a gun and threatened to shoot the man in the face for begging. Our responsibility is to deescalate the situation and not escalate it which the O.P. did and very unnecessarily. I am not flaming the O.P. or anyone else but those words alone could have the O.P. slammed by the law. I don't like Bums either but they have the right to life and we do not have a right to take that away because they are leaches on society. Lack of social value as a reason for persecution or murder is the same reasoning that has caused genocide in other countries where the people have no rights or justice. No flames or acquisitions here. I just cannot justify those words no matter how hard I try.

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