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sjfcontrol wrote:

woodsong wrote:

Rex B wrote:The question in the back of my mind is "What do we do if he does get re-elected?".

I mean, if that were to happen, this country would be forever ruined, perhaps beyond repair.

I've started to think it might not be as bad as expected. It could be like Clinton's second term -- where he was re-elected, but did not control the House and didn't have 2/3 Senate control. It was basically stalemate -- which turned out okay ... because doing "nothing" is often best when the government's the one doing it.

It could turn into a disaster, though, if Obama gets to appoint another Supreme and enough Republican Senators cave in and vote for approval. That would be the end of life as we know it -- a liberal controlled court would flush the Constitution away.

The difference is that Clinton was bound by the Constitution and the Legislature. Obama, apparently, is not bound by either.

03Lightningrocks wrote:My issue is that both parties want to infringe on my freedom. It is just different freedoms they are each wanting to take away. The lessor of two evils for me is to vote anybody but Odumbell.

OldCannon wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote: Government should be small. Laws should be few. Sense should be common. Rights should be obvious, respected, and exercised often. The strong should protect the weak. Those blessed with plenty should care for those who have not. Justice should be equal, swift, and fit the crime.

It really is pretty simple.

Anygunanywhere

Can I get an "Amen!" over here, brothers and sisters?

RoyGBiv wrote: I don't blame liberals for having their opinions. I blame parents for sending their kids out to listen to that stuff without arming them with the ability to think for themselves.

I expect my kids to survive any attempts at indoctrination because I'm involved. I go to their school when I see things I don't like. And I sit the kids down and explain my reasoning. [They LOVE that (/sarcasm), but it works ... I'd say I'm up to maybe 30% retention .]

Critical thinking. The foundation of Freedom.

The Annoyed Man wrote:Since the republican party will never grow the stones to "evict" non-conservatives and focus its brand, this may a propitious time in history for the formation of a viable Conservatve Party. Maybe it is the time for coalition politics which require a coalition of the republican, libertarian, and a conservative party which collectively can defeat a monolithic democrat party at the national level, but will provide voters with greater choice at the local level? I don't know for sure. What I DO know is that there is literally no ideological separation between the democrat party, and the American Communist Party. If there is, I'd dearly like someone to point it out to me. I don't think it can be demonstrated in any significant detail.

Personally, I think we are witnessing the end of the American "experiment" in our lifetimes, and the 2nd Amendment may become the bulwark it was originally intended to be in the restoration of liberty.

Or maybe I'm just one of those conservative cranks clinging bitterly to my guns and my religion. Frankly, I don't care what anybody thinks about my politics. I'm done with "cooperation" and "bipartisanship," the two great evils which have led us to where we now find ourselves. I am in favor of whatever it takes to change things and push the reset button.

speedsix wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

74novaman wrote:

Rex B wrote:The question in the back of my mind is "What do we do if he does get re-elected?".

I mean, if that were to happen, this country would be forever ruined, perhaps beyond repair.

Heck, even if a Republican gets in, if we don't repeal the massive govt overreach that is Obamacare and start cutting back on the domestic spying programs and other civil liberty encroachments, we may be done for anyway.

If "entitlements" and other transfer payments aren't reduced, if government spending doesn't get under control almost immediately (which seems likely), and debt continues to increase at the current rate, economic collapse is inevitable, no matter what else happens.

...I think that's the trigger...when the economy won't support the entitlements, and they begin to be removed or reduced, we have a good idea what will happen...

Rex B wrote:The question in the back of my mind is "What do we do if he does get re-elected?".

I mean, if that were to happen, this country would be forever ruined, perhaps beyond repair.