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Yup!sjfcontrol wrote:
My bet is that he's had a few beers while off-duty. AND I bet he did NOT disarm prior to doing so.
Comparing his drinking ON-DUTY to a CHL'er drinking at dinner is not (IMO) a comparable situation.
I'd rather they and I spent time on getting campus carry passed then worrying about technicalities that probably won't ever affect anyone. But it is a fun discussion on legality/wording/intent, etc.sjfcontrol wrote:
I suggest you write a strongly-worded letter to that effect to the DPS Legal department.
Exactly.WildBill wrote:I agree with both of you on this point.Keith B wrote:sjfcontrol is spot on on this one guys. I have seen (and arrested) people who were way over .08 that didn't seem to be too intoxicated, and had someone who blew .01 that was wasted out of their gourd. It all depends on the person and WHAT ELSE is going on with their body.
My objection is when an instructor teaches that it is illegal to have any alcohol in your system if you are carrying. That may be an excellent policy, it may their own personal standard of behavior or their interpretation of the law. It is simply not true that is is against the law.
That's a pretty good summary I think. If I'm out to dinner and having a good burger, I might have a beer with it. Or a glass of wine with a nice meal. In no way do I ever feel "drunk" or "out of control" when having that minimal amount of booze with a meal. Its not enough to affect my driving or decision making, so I'm not worried about being pulled over or interacting with the cops anyway.steveincowtown wrote:
Everyone makes there own choices, and these are only the choices I believe are correct for me.
At home- do what I want, drink what I want, carry all the time. A Gun is just like any other tool. I am not going to drink 6 beers and play with my chainsaw, but I won't let having a few beers keep me from using my chainsaw to free my family from a dangerous situation.
If I am going out to dinner- have my limit, stay safe, drive safe, carry all the time.
If I am going out "drinking" - lock my gun up, don't drive, don't carry. Beyond the 51% signage issue, there is just no reason to be in public, intoxicated, with a gun. I have zero worries about how I will handle myself, but I don't want to get in a wrestling match, shoving, or even a excited discussion with someone who can't handle there liquor and risk them getting a hold of my gun.
I made all these decisions years ago, and they have worked out pretty well...so far.
