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03Lightningrocks wrote: Tell me stories about how nobody actually does it anyway in states that allow it, just makes me wonder what the point is even more. maybe instead we can get some work done on the accidental exposure issues. That would solve most of the concerns I see expressed here... even though being outed is extremely rare when one is concealing responsibly.

I've always been curious about that too. Yes I understand that not being legally able to OC is an infringement upon our Constitutional right to do so. That being said, it seems a lot of political capital would be expended for something a few people might do occasionally.

I'd rather spend that capital on allowing people on campuses to protect themselves, and people with unfortunate work situations keep a gun in their car legally.

After we get those two things passed, then we can push for OC.

My .02, as has been expressed repeatedly.

tacticool wrote:It's frustrating to realize that most Texans are not pro gun enough to accept open carry.

If we want to sugar coat it, we can say they're "not comfortable enough with guns" to tolerate open carry, but it boils down to the same thing. If people got upset whenever they saw an interracial couple holding hands, and tried to pass laws against it, we could say they're "not comfortable" with it, but it doesn't change the facts.

It has NOTHING to do with how "pro gun" we are. It has EVERYTHING to do with the political realities in Texas.

Texas voters sent 12 democrats to the US house in 2008. Obama got 44% of the vote in this state. The republicans hold a majority here, but it is a slim one. Yes, I understand Texas democrats are probably more likely to be pro gun than say a New York democrat, but to ignore the fact a large part of the Texas population probably wouldn't be so friendly to CHL laws (if they even knew about them) is a mistake.

I KNOW Kommiefornia is not Texas, but if you've visited Austin lately, you'd see they have more in common with Sacramento than say, Amarillo. And the tactics of OC proponents there not only failed to help their cause, but caused the California Assembly to pass a law trying to ban even that slim sliver of their 2A rights they had left. Is that progress to you?

It has taken us years of hard work to get to this point. I simply fail to understand why OC advocates fail to grasp political reality. Mr. Cotton, who's been on the front lines for years, so to speak, has laid out repeatedly the steps needed to be taken in order for OC to become an issue for TSRA. If OC advocates are not willing to take those steps, accusing the concealed carry crowd "not pro gun" is certainly not going to help you. If you're willing to insult those who have the most in common with you, good luck convincing legislators who aren't your friends to back your cause.