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by joelamosobadiah
Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:37 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?
Replies: 115
Views: 18952

Re: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?

MeMelYup wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I disagree as I think it can still require deliberate concentrated effort to get a bill passed while eliminating inefficiency. No where did i indicate i want to make it easier to pass a bill. What's the purpose of not being able to debate a bill and vote on it until weeks has passed since it was referred from committee? A week to two is plenty of time for the legislators to get up to speed on the bills that make it to the floor. I believe bad bills would continue to die in committee or be voted down on the floor whether the legislators spend weeks grandstanding, congratulating one another and passing resolutions or not.

If they have too much time in session, then let's shorten the session. If we are relying on inefficiency to protect us from bad bills being passed, we have bigger problems than I realize.

Heaven forbid we eliminate government waste and inefficiency.
You cannot eliminate waste no mater how efficient something runs. An electric motor has wasted motion. With people there is individual thoughts. Each person has individual thinking process and with that their minds stray. I would not want to live in a world where all thoughts were pinpointed and individuals worked the same way, it would stagnate.
So replace eliminate with reduce... I don't think he truly meant to eliminate all traces of inefficiency...

I spent 7 years in federal civilian service, and a couple of those years put large amount of time in DC working on improving our agency, crafting new rules and procedures, etc. The level of inefficiency that is built into the very foundation of our government is completely mind-blowing. I always found jokes about the government humorous because they contain a small amount of truth in them. I now find them repulsive because even the jokes that seem to be grossly exaggerated barely scratch the surface of how completely ingrained the waste and inefficiency is into the system.

So I agree. The system is very, very broken and needs some major work, however, all things considered, the Texas legislature seems to work pretty well to accomplish the most important items and not be too overbearing.
by joelamosobadiah
Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:08 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?
Replies: 115
Views: 18952

Re: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?

Ruark wrote:
timtheteacher wrote:I think they are done for the day :banghead:
Arrgghhhh...... :banghead:

So, when should they actually begin discussing SB 17?
From above:
No bill or resolution may be considered on its first day on the Intent Calendar, and a vote of two-thirds of the senators present is required before any of the measures listed on the Intent Calendar may be debated.
The way I understand it's eligible for debate tomorrow if the the 2/3 vote is reached.
by joelamosobadiah
Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:43 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?
Replies: 115
Views: 18952

Re: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?

timtheteacher wrote:I think they are done for the day :banghead:
Yeah, looks like it was as suspected. The bills were placed on the intent calendar for the "first reading" then they're eligible for discussion, etc. starting tomorrow.
by joelamosobadiah
Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:38 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?
Replies: 115
Views: 18952

Re: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?

Adjourned pending reading of bills which is happening now. :smash:
by joelamosobadiah
Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:21 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?
Replies: 115
Views: 18952

Re: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?

Senator Ellis had a resolution to make today the University of Texas system day. How ironic would it be to make progress on campus carry the same day... :biggrinjester:
by joelamosobadiah
Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:02 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?
Replies: 115
Views: 18952

Re: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?

Roll call is complete as well as invocation. I have it on in the office to see if there's anything of substance today.
by joelamosobadiah
Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:10 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?
Replies: 115
Views: 18952

Re: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?

joe817 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Charles, In senate debate, is there a cutoff point after which no new amendments can be submitted, so that there is enough time to review, debate, and accept or discard each amendment before the bill goes for a final vote?
A very good and valid question TAM. I was going to ask that very thing.
Ruark wrote: I wonder what other goofball amendments they're going to try to sneak in there....
I wonder the same Ruark. Does anyone know where we can read allllllllll the amendements?
I don't believe they're available until they're actually presented as an amendment. Right now they're being crafted by people or people say they have an amendment, but it hasn't actually been presented as a proposed amendment. I seem to remember a long process on the floor when amendments were being presented and voted on one-by-one from last session.
by joelamosobadiah
Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:16 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?
Replies: 115
Views: 18952

Re: SB 17 about to go to the Senate Floor - Amendments?

mojo84 wrote:I can understand her wanting to get a hot potato bill out of her committee as soon as possible and get it to the floor so everyone can share the heat.
:iagree:

Also it allows you to spin it many different directions. From being supportive of gun rights, to getting the legislative "circus" out of the way to work on other topics, to being able to maybe get a brief break from the more extreme lobbyists for a month, etc.

I think it was a good decision. With my limited knowledge of the process I would rather have one full day of that craziness and then be able to move on and hopefully have some relative peace and quiet around the capitol for a few weeks instead of people walking into offices demanding action on that bill.

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