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by joelamosobadiah
Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:47 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: open carry bill filed
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Rep. Lavender's Facebook Page wrote:I want to thank everyone who has expressed support for Open Carry in our state. The response has been phenomenal ! I also want to say that some folks believe that our bill changes the 30.06 signage requirement. That is not our intent. We worked with the NRA, who has been very supportive, to come up with a bill that would not make a business bar concealed carry because they may have concerns about Open Carry. The new signage applies only to Open Carry. We will have several more attorneys and interested parties review the language next week to make sure that's what we have done. If we missed the mark, it will be fixed. The last thing we want is to diminish our right to concealed carry in an attempt to expand our legal carry rights. Thank you all.
Makes me wonder if this was hastily written? If somebody wrote the bill who didn't fully understand Rep. Lavender's intent? If we're getting a smoke screen to garner support...?

My bet is on 1 or 2 honestly. I guess now we see if it is in fact "fixed".
by joelamosobadiah
Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:47 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: open carry bill filed
Replies: 139
Views: 27077

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On Rep. Lavender's Facebook page I expressed my concerns with the bill. He again stated that the bill doesn't affect 30.06. I'm starting to think that he didn't write much of the bill at all and is going off the word of lawyers. That or his staffers are responding to people and don't understand the ramifications of the bill.
by joelamosobadiah
Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:08 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: open carry bill filed
Replies: 139
Views: 27077

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If I put a small Velcro "button" on my gun and another on my holster is that "dual points of resistance"? :???: :mrgreen:
by joelamosobadiah
Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:28 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: open carry bill filed
Replies: 139
Views: 27077

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Bullwhip wrote:
joelamosobadiah wrote: I agree with point 1. It does make 30.06 apply to both concealed and open carry. That's a big negative.
From my reading of the bill it appears he retained the 1" contrasting letters and both languages, however, it removes the exact wording and instead says language indicating that.....
Really disappointed this got so screwed up. I don't think he wrote it, he's been saying he was waiting on it to get back from "the lawyers" (lege lawyers? Others?). Whoever wrote it mess up big time.

All those additions of "or unconcealed", shoulda just deleted "concealed" instead.
That still would have left the issue of business owners having no way to prohibit open carry while allowing concealed. He should have left 30.06 alone to cover concealed carry and added a provision for CHLs to carry openly, but any no guns sign would carry force of law for open carry.
by joelamosobadiah
Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:24 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: open carry bill filed
Replies: 139
Views: 27077

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I haven't analyzed this 39 page bill, but it guts TPC §30.06. It not only applies to both open-carry and concealed-carry, it repeals the statutorily-required verbiage that has been required since 1997. This specific language combined with the 1" block letter requirement are what makes a TPC §30.06 compliant sign the "big ugly sign" that property owners don't want to post. All that is necessary under HB700 is that a property owner post a sign referencing Tex. Gov't Code §411 and TPC 30.06. This could be a very small sign even though HB700 retains the 1" block letter requirement.

To say this is disappointing would be a gross understatement.

Chas.
I agree with point 1. It does make 30.06 apply to both concealed and open carry. That's a big negative.
From my reading of the bill it appears he retained the 1" contrasting letters and both languages, however, it removes the exact wording and instead says language indicating that.....

Still IMO too many negatives to support, but it does appear that he attempted to appease both sides.

How hard could it have been to just not touch the progress already made.
by joelamosobadiah
Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:09 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: open carry bill filed
Replies: 139
Views: 27077

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Wow, was really hoping this would be a good bill, but I'm really disappointed. Rep. Lavender publicly told myself and others this bill wouldn't touch 30.06. How sad to see that wasn't true.

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