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by Muhr
Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:11 pm
Forum: The "Waiting Room"
Topic: February Applications
Replies: 731
Views: 105706

Re: February Applications

OK. Now it begins to make sense. I didn't realize the 30+60 typo language. But what constitutes 'receipt'? In the mail or in the system? That seems to be where the 'typo' really throws the wrench in the works.
That's again where it gets clear as mud, note the difference between renewals...

Not later than the 45th day after receipt of the renewal materials

And regular applications

not later than the 60th day after the date of the receipt by the director's designee of the completed
application materials


For renewels it's when it gets to DPS, for first timers, it is the "director's designee" of whom Mr. Cotton has said... (Both quotes taken from thread linked below)

"Although the term designee isnt statutorily defined, it clearly refers to a person in the applicants geographical area. DPS is supposed to start the computer background check upon receipt of the application materials, but it can wait up to 30 days to send the file to its designee to begin the local records check. If DPS sends the file to the local designee earlier than 30 days after DPS receipt of the application, then DPS cannot legally take 90 days to process."

He also says

"However, it's only because of a typo that DPS can take up to 90 days. DPS recognizes this and the administrators admit that 60 days is the standard they try to meet. This typo should be fixed in 2009. There is no such typo in the renewal language, so DPS has only 45 days from the date your complete application is received by DPS."

So it's 30days+60days=90days (counting starts when designee gets data, this has to be within 30 days of DPS recipt, then has 60 days to finish.)

So, basically what I am saying is, count the days from date DPS gets it :clapping: , but instead of using the 60 day benchmark... use 90 :banghead: . Does the 'application processing' threshold indicate when the "real" 60 begins, maybe, maybe not, they are around the same time anyway, so you might be right in saying the '60 days' technically start then now, but it was really supposed to be when DPS recieves it. Sorta, kinda, maybe.


But, again, the waits seem to be getting shorter generally.

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... t=60th+day
by Muhr
Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:58 pm
Forum: The "Waiting Room"
Topic: February Applications
Replies: 731
Views: 105706

Re: February Applications

Not to rain on your parade (I'll do it anyway :lol: ), but you are only 21 days in, not 45. The counting begins on the day your app enters the system, not when they receive it, so you'd start counting from March 6, not February 10.
Not that it actually means much, but the 60 days starts when they recieve the package. But due to an 'unfortunate' phrasing in the law they are technically given until day 90 to tell you yea/nea (and that 90 day limit is getting broken often recently). But it appears that there actually is some improvement happening as some of us over in Januaryland have seen some action. (I am at day 80, expecting delivery early this week, and mine took a couple weeks longer than some who sent in around the same time)

So April should be a good month for the early/mid Feb folks.

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... ay#p177616

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