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VMI77 wrote:

jmra wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

chasfm11 wrote:On balance, there was the church shooting in France where a congregation member with a small caliber pistol took on a group of BGs with a lot heavier weapons. Sometimes, it is about how much courage you have and not about how much you are outnumbered. In a crowded fast food place, however, I cannot imagine it ending well if shooting starts.

I thought that was in Zimbabwe or South Africa....and he had a revolver because one revolver was the only handgun allowed by law?

France would be more believable. They've been dropping heavy weapons at the first sign of trouble for over 60 years.

http://www.wnd.com/2008/07/70372/

This is the only such incident I'm aware of:

“Grenades were exploding in flashes of light. Pews shattered under the blasts, sending splinters flying through the air,” he recalled. “An automatic assault rifle was being fired and was fast ripping the pews – and whoever, whatever was in its trajectory – to pieces. We were being attacked!

“Instinctively, I knelt down behind the bench in front of me and pulled out my .38 special snub-nosed revolver, which I always carried with me,” he writes in “Shooting Back.” “I would have felt undressed without it. Many people could not understand why I would carry a firearm into a church service, but I argued that this was a particularly dangerous time in South Africa.”

Abraham wrote:Perhaps, one could employ the "Blazing Saddles" type threat of holding your pistol up to your own head and command the robbers to leave or you'll kill yourself.

Hey, it worked in the movie.

VMI77 wrote:

chasfm11 wrote:On balance, there was the church shooting in France where a congregation member with a small caliber pistol took on a group of BGs with a lot heavier weapons. Sometimes, it is about how much courage you have and not about how much you are outnumbered. In a crowded fast food place, however, I cannot imagine it ending well if shooting starts.

I thought that was in Zimbabwe or South Africa....and he had a revolver because one revolver was the only handgun allowed by law?

03Lightningrocks wrote:

jmra wrote:

chasfm11 wrote:Failing memory is a horrible thing......

Was going to post a response but forgot what I was going to say.

I was actually just looking for a reason to quote a multipost.

chasfm11 wrote:Failing memory is a horrible thing......

Abraham wrote:Certainly, "take over" robberies can happen at many different businesses - that said, I NEVER go inside a fast food joint.

They seem to attract more of this type robbery, besides the inside of any fast food joint is generally noisy, with aerosolized grease to be inhaled and abundant howling brats running hither and yon destroying digestion.

Now, get off my lawn!

rotor wrote:The stay away from Houston answer is not realistic. This could be anywhere in any neighborhood. That's why you have a CHL isn't it?

locke_n_load wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:When I go to any eatery, I always sit where I can watch the front door and the windows leading up to it. Eyeballing every entrant is my specialty.

A situation like this is real bad. Too many assailants and who knows if they will all run or if they will all start firing back. The problem isn't getting yourself shot as much as it is getting someone's child shot while we try to play a video game style shoot out.

As far as finding my gun, that is a possibility for sure but in this case I didn't see a report of them frisking people. They said to throw out your wallets. I have considered what I would do in a situation where they had the numbers and the drop on me. If possible, I would try to get my gun into my hand and hide that hand under my body. This would be a "break glass" in case of emergency use only. If the bad guys were leaving I would let them. If they start firing, I am ready.

Exactly, on all points.