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android wrote:This is a strapless dress.

If you think it is slutty, trashy or in any other way promiscuous or excessively reveailing, they you are a hopeless sex fiend and the problem is with YOU, not the lady wearing the dress.

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She's not 13 either.

steveincowtown wrote:

jmra wrote:

steveincowtown wrote:For all those that agree with the school implementing this rule, I would submit that you are unintentionally yielding to the idea the children are the collective responsibility of government and society and that they do not belong to their parents.

Parents need to be making these decisions, not schools.

Parents do make those decisions. I've seen parents change/set policies hundreds of times. It's simply a matter of getting enough parents behind the issue.
If you want your daughter to wear a strapless dress get enough parents together who believe as you do and you will get what you want.
In this case the majority of the parents over time have expressed their will for a certain dress standard which the district has adopted.

What you are saying is, by definition, collectivism. If this is what you believe, I certainly have no problem with it, it is just not what I happen to believe.

Collectivist orientations stress the importance of cohesion within social groups (such as an "in-group", in what specific context it is defined) and in some cases, the priority of group goals over individual goals.

I don't need the government, or other parents, telling me what is or isn't right.

It's not a matter of what I believe, it's a matter of "do I choose to participate". I assume attendance at the dance is not mandatory. If you don't agree with the rules and are not willing to fight to change them, then dont participate.
This forum has guidelines and rules that you may not agree with, but if you choose to participate you abide by the rules.

If your work place is properly posted (even though you may believe it is wrong to do so) you can choose to work there unarmed or you can choose to work somewhere else.

Like you, I will decide what I believe to be right or wrong for my kids. In cases where I believe the rules are not suited to my beliefs I will take what I believe to be the appropriate measures. This means that there will be things that other kids participate in that they will not. In this particular case, I would be much more comfortable with my young teenage son attending a dance where the rules err on the side of caution than I would be if the rules were made to fit the most liberal parent's desires. On the flip side, if the girls were required to wear turtle necks I probably wouldn't have anything to worry about because my son would not want to go anyway.

Bottom line, society will always have rules. Some we will agree with others we will not. We can either work to change those we don't agree with or we can isolate ourselves from those parts of society. I don't believe either decision is a wrong one.

steveincowtown wrote:For all those that agree with the school implementing this rule, I would submit that you are unintentionally yielding to the idea the children are the collective responsibility of government and society and that they do not belong to their parents.

Parents need to be making these decisions, not schools.

Parents do make those decisions. I've seen parents change/set policies hundreds of times. It's simply a matter of getting enough parents behind the issue.
If you want your daughter to wear a strapless dress get enough parents together who believe as you do and you will get what you want.
In this case the majority of the parents over time have expressed their will for a certain dress standard which the district has adopted.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

steveincowtown wrote:For all those that agree with the school implementing this rule, I would submit that you are unintentionally yielding to the idea the children are the collective responsibility of government and society and that they do not belong to their parents.

Parents need to be making these decisions, not schools.

I never said differently. I don't care what the school does......they're already a cultural, political, and constitutional wasteland. But I DO care about what parents allow their children to do, and I will feel free to judge as first class idiots those who are too permissive and who lack the spine to be good parents.

It's a dress code that will hopefully help prevent any wardrobe malfunctions.