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I have to go to the Hobby Center this Friday for a play.... I guess I need to go after them next

C-dub wrote:

blackdog8200 wrote:UPDATE 2/28/2013

WHO SAYS YOU CAN"T BEAT CITY HALL?

I Recieved a call from Mark McAvoy the Executive Director for the Houston Permitting Center,

He informed me that the sign on the door will be removed in the next few days! They are reviewing their policy and Executive order to comply with State Law. He did say they were not going to advertise the change but that I should expect to see it soon.

Molon Labe

Very nice work Blackdog8200. However, wouldn't it be something that you will NOT see soon?

Since you asked


coh permits office

C-dub wrote:

blackdog8200 wrote:UPDATE 2/28/2013

WHO SAYS YOU CAN"T BEAT CITY HALL?

I Recieved a call from Mark McAvoy the Executive Director for the Houston Permitting Center,

He informed me that the sign on the door will be removed in the next few days! They are reviewing their policy and Executive order to comply with State Law. He did say they were not going to advertise the change but that I should expect to see it soon.

Molon Labe

Very nice work Blackdog8200. However, wouldn't it be something that you will NOT see soon?

With any luck we will NOT SEE it lol!

I expect to see some sign that says CHL holders must check in at the security desk....this would be in compliance with the Ex Ord that Herr Mayorfuher signed.

UPDATE 2/28/2013

WHO SAYS YOU CAN"T BEAT CITY HALL?

I Recieved a call from Mark McAvoy the Executive Director for the Houston Permitting Center,

He informed me that the sign on the door will be removed in the next few days! They are reviewing their policy and Executive order to comply with State Law. He did say they were not going to advertise the change but that I should expect to see it soon.

Molon Labe

What gets me is the Copy of the executive order banning firearms from city buildigs specifically mentions CHL holders as exceptions and yet they still post the 30.06 sign

I could understand if they posted a Unlicensed Possesion of a Hangun sign... Just not the 30.06 sign.

They responded in less that 24 hours last time....I'll see what they say to my rebuttal.

I recently contacted the City of Houston 311 information division for an explanation and to complain about the 30.06 sign posted at the City of Houston Permit Offices on Washington Avenue.

They have a properly worded 30.06 sign but it is on a city building with no courts etc that I or the 30.06 site seems to be aware of.

I was astounded that I got a reply buteven more so that the reply actually reinforced my complaint. It seems that in the
CITY OF HOUSTON
Executive Order
Subject: Security on City Premises
E.O. No.
1-37 Revised
Effective Date:
09/20/2010
Approved: Date Approved:
09/20/2010
Page 1

here is the part that seems to negate the City posting a 30.0 worded sign:

10. NOTICES
10.1 Copies of this directive shall be maintained for inspection in the Administration & Regulatory Affairs Department.
10.2 Copies of this directive shall be maintained by security personnel stationed at public entrances or shall otherwise be made available upon request for public inspection upon each City premises to which it pertains.
10.3 One or more signs shall be posted at each of the entrances to City premises. The signs shall be of a size and type reasonably likely to come to the attention of entrants displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public and shall advise in English and Spanish that:
10.3.1 All persons entering a secure area must stop and identify themselves to security personnel, announce their intended destination, and be subject to a search or inspection for weapons prior to entering the secure area. In addition, all persons shall submit all bags or packages in their possession to a search for weapons.
10.3.2 Persons having weapons in their possession may not enter the premises, unless they are licensed by the state to carry a concealed handgun, or are an exempted Peace Officer or Officer of the Court.
10.3.3 If applicable, lawful weapons may be checked at a designated security station.
10.3.4 Copies of applicable regulations may be read at a designated place.
10.3.5 Persons who do not comply with posted notices or security measures are subject to prosecution.
10.3.6 If applicable, the entrance is not a public entrance and that members of the public may use a designated entrance for admission.
11. ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES
11.1 The provisions of this directive shall be enforced by security personnel. Where appropriate, non-peace officer security personnel shall call upon peace officers for assistance.
11.2 Persons refusing to comply with the policies and procedures set out herein in contravention of posted notices of this directive will be asked to leave the premises. Those refusing to do so by entering upon or remaining within City premises after having been given notice to depart, shall be subject to arrest and prosecution for trespass. See Sections 2-414, 2-415, and 2-419 of the Code of Ordinances and applicable Penal Code Sections.
11.3 Texas Penal Code Sections 30.05(f) and 30.06(e) provide exceptions to prosecution for criminal trespass by persons in possession of a handgun, if they are licensed to carry
Subject: Security on City Premises E. O. No.: 1-37 Revised Page 9 of 9
a concealed handgun, and the sole reason for excluding them is the presence of the handgun. However, under Penal Code Section 46.035(c) it is an offense for the holder of a concealed handgun license to carry a handgun into any meeting of a governmental entity.

I highlighted the parts of the EXO and sent it back to the City to see what response I get.