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by Conagher
Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry
Replies: 184
Views: 25427

Re: Open Carry

Keith B wrote:
Conagher wrote: Well, I was really hoping more folks would jump in to be part of a solution.

Keith B, mr surveyor, and frazzled: Not to put you on the spot, but I was really hoping for a response from you folks. With your experience, knowledge and your typical level-headed responses I’m guessing you would have some great ideas on how we could began working up a resolution to this impediment of freedom. What do you say; want to give it a shot?

Others please join in as well.

Thanks and Have a Nice Day!
Well, as much as it would be nice to have open carry capability, I personally don't see it happening. As stated before, trying to get a state to reverse a law is VERY tough and my thoughts are the compromises that would be required to get ANY form of open carry would cause damage to concealed carry laws.

There is one potential option for a start, and that might be to try and get open carry in unincorporated areas, i.e. not in the city limits. This would allow those that live in rural areas an option to not have to cover. By starting small and out in the areas where there are no big businesses, you start training the populace that just because someone has a gun on their hip doesn't make them a bad person.

IMO any advancement toward getting open carry is going to be slow at best. And, after last year's debacle with some of the antagonistic methods a few supporters used, you are going to meet with a lot of resistance from legislators. You are going to have to try and get them to eat the elephant one bite at a time and it is going to take a lot of tenderizing and chewing to get anyone to swallow the bite and not choke.
Thanks for the reply Keith B. I think starting in unicorporated areas has a lot of merit. How do you think we could go about implementing something like this?

Also just to respond to some of your other comments: I agree trying to get a State to reverse a law is tough, but as we have seen with the concealed carry law it is not impossible with a lot of hard work. I also agree advancement towards OC could be slow; which to me means all the more reason we need to begin working it now. Seems reasonable to start laying the ground work now (swallowing the first bite). An example to this is last session a bill was submitted to allow OC for handicap folks. Maybe we can get that re-submitted and include unincorporated areas as a start. What do you think?

Thanks and Have a Nice Day!
by Conagher
Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:22 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry
Replies: 184
Views: 25427

Re: Open Carry

frazzled wrote:Personally I'm for OC with the ability of local jurisidictions to prohibit, otherwise limited only by the same requirements of purchasing a firearm in Texas. It would be problematic between jurisdictions, but thats the wonly way i could see it, other than being prescirbed in areas of such and such concentration of folks. Frankly if someone walked by armed outside the BofA Building or Chase Tower, many people would freak, including all the cops about.
Personally I'm ok for CC, limited only by the same requirements of purchasing a firearm in Texas. 30.06 signs and other off limits to remain.

Not so certain how to go about it other than expand the CC first. As noted, OC of long guns was a time honored tradition in Texas until the 90s. Like others I grew up with everyone with a truck have a shotgun rack and a shotgun or 30/30 in it (and often an umbrella at least in Houston). That fell away more due to crime than much of anything else-people would steal your dang 30/30 out of your truck! :mad5
Thanks for your reply fazzled. I think you have the start of an idea there. I would like to kindly encourage you to continue your thought process to see how this could work.

Thanks and Have a Nice Day!
by Conagher
Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:02 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry
Replies: 184
Views: 25427

Re: Open Carry

Conagher wrote:I’ve stated this before, but maybe worth repeating. I believe we should be addressing the root cause of the issue in order to find an appropriate solution. Most, if not all the objections I read hear to OC is not with the freedom and choice to OC, but rather with our current law to allow posting of the 30.06 sign. If we can address this concern it appears, at least from this thread that we can all align on restoring this freedom.

What are some of your ideas on how we can add/delete/modify the current 30.06 law to ensure this issue is addressed?

jordanmills had one idea which appears to be a play on how/why the original 30.06 was created in the first place. Thanks jordanmills for being part of the solution!

Now, what are yours?

Thanks and Have a Nice Day!

Well, I was really hoping more folks would jump in to be part of a solution.

Keith B, mr surveyor, and frazzled: Not to put you on the spot, but I was really hoping for a response from you folks. With your experience, knowledge and your typical level-headed responses I’m guessing you would have some great ideas on how we could began working up a resolution to this impediment of freedom. What do you say; want to give it a shot?

Others please join in as well.

Thanks and Have a Nice Day!
by Conagher
Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:50 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry
Replies: 184
Views: 25427

Re: Open Carry

I’ve stated this before, but maybe worth repeating. I believe we should be addressing the root cause of the issue in order to find an appropriate solution. Most, if not all the objections I read hear to OC is not with the freedom and choice to OC, but rather with our current law to allow posting of the 30.06 sign. If we can address this concern it appears, at least from this thread that we can all align on restoring this freedom.

What are some of your ideas on how we can add/delete/modify the current 30.06 law to ensure this issue is addressed?

jordanmills had one idea which appears to be a play on how/why the original 30.06 was created in the first place. Thanks jordanmills for being part of the solution!

Now, what are yours?

Thanks and Have a Nice Day!
by Conagher
Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry
Replies: 184
Views: 25427

Re: Open Carry

I am not sure I comprehend the “beating a dead horse” idiom as it relates to this subject – the definition being a particular request or line of conversation is already foreclosed or otherwise resolved, and any attempt to continue it is futile. Though you may argue the futility of the discussion it is certainly not foreclosed or otherwise resolved.

Similar to past predictions from opposing sides on other issues, both horrific and benign, I suspect the OC issue will end up being much ado about nothing once it becomes legal in Texas. After the fact it will hardly be worth the effort of revisiting the augments to assess who’s prediction was more accurate. Some will benefit, and others may experience little or no impact; but all should rejoice anytime freedom is restored.

Have a nice day.

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