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dicion wrote:

ninjamedic2293 wrote: Not attempting to stop an arterial bleed (when you can safely attempt to control the bleeding) when you have the training and knowledge that failure to do so will kill that person is murder. Perhaps not legally im not sure but definitely morally.

I'm former military, so I know how to properly use a tourniquet, and can identify an arterial bleed to an extremity. I would assume that I "have the training and knowledge" that you speak of above by this fact.

Yes, I'm going to holster my weapon, get close to, and attempt to assist someone who I just shot because they were trying to kill me...

Of course, since I shot him, he is going to be all nice and happy now, and NOT try to continue to kill me when I get within his arms reaching distance...

I'm sorry, but there is NEVER a time that you can "safely attempt to control the bleeding" on a perp that you just shot. Even if he's unconscious, how do you know he doesn't have a friend outside in a getaway car that will come to investigate when you're busy trying to save the perp's life?

Sorry, but this is the stupidest idea ever. Right up there with Applying Handcuffs, CHL Badge/Sash, and a $200 Upper.
We need to start making a list.

Dicion,

Even though you received medical training in the army you are still considered a lay person in the civilian world. To my knowledge you don't have an EMS/RN/MD certification/license that could be suspended or revoked leading to the loss of your employment and/or career. You as a lay person have no duty to render aid to the person who you just hypothetically shot. It is not that simple for someone who holds a license as a medical professional. While the law may not require medical personnel to render aid; the licensing agency may look at things totally differently when it comes to the obligation to fulfill ones duties as a medical professional. It may seem cut and dry for the non medical professionals, "that guy attacked me, why should I help save him?" but it becomes a real grey area when it comes to us medical professionals. Please don't think that I am trying to imply that medical personnel are superior to anyone else, nor am I trying to be disrespectful of your service to our great nation or the training that you received during that service.

howdy wrote:Don't forget the #1 thing in EMS is scene safety. I don't see how it is a very safe scene if there has been someone shot and the Police have not secured the area. After the Police get there, I would render aid to the guy I shot but not until the scene was safe. (Paramedic too)

I agree with you on the scene safety issue. The question is, would TDH agree at our hearing to determine weather or not we had a duty to act and would they buy the scene safety argument.

As a paramedic I agree with what the other medical types have stated above. For those of you in EMS, do you think that your cert would be in jeopardy if you failed to render aid after shooting a BG. I have often wondered if we as medical personnel have a duty to act after such a situation. It is not like we have the ability to claim that we have not had prior medical training and therefore did not know what to do. I would like to know what your thoughts are in regards to our duty to act. Do you think that TDH might try to take our cert because we did not render aid?