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by wgoforth
Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:25 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?
Replies: 70
Views: 16059

Re: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?

Jaguar wrote:
wgoforth wrote:I think we are talking 2 different kinds of places. The outdoor ranges key controlled I am referring to are usually out of the way, secluded with not many people at a time. We had a murder at ours here in Brownwood years ago and 2 years ago on Christmas day a man was murdered at such a range in OK. Those keys get passed around to buddies and half the folks don't lock it, so lots of non-members come in. Think about it...just you and another guy by yourselves. You're not going to be alarmed at another guy with a gun. Pop. Between that and the dangerous shooters (ie, firing while someone is on the range checking targets after calling cease fire) I do not go to this one. That is why I said each range will be different, just check it out.
While it is a possibility I guess I just haven't thought about it. Members at our club are required to carry a badge, but that could be passed to an outsider just as easily as the key. You describe it perfectly, yes, it is an off the beaten path outdoor range and usually only one or two other groups there at one time, so I guess it is a possibility.

My biggest fear would be finding someone who committed suicide, I've never felt in danger there in the least. Some of my closest friends were met there. I was the club's event coordinator for a few years before I needed a break last election, and I know most of the regulars so usually I'm either by myself or with people I know. Good group of folks but with 250 members I don't know everyone. Dang, now I going to be paranoid. :grumble
This one has the pistol range on the far right, with no dividers. Hunters lay their long guns pointed directly toward the pistol range station (like one loooong table) aiming right at me. When I say anything I get the "It's unloaded. I know how to shoot." You go check your target and call cease fire, then they resume firing while your on the range. You say anything and get the "You're way over there." Looking up at the tin top to the shooters table, and you see it bullet ridden. Nuh uh. Might be fine with trained shooters, but most I have encountered there are not. Like I say, each range will be different.. this is ours.
by wgoforth
Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:43 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?
Replies: 70
Views: 16059

Re: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?

Jaguar wrote:
TomsTXCHL wrote:
wgoforth wrote:Some ranges are strictly monitored; some not at all. I won't go to the kind where you just have a key to let yourself in. Good place to get murdered for your guns, or shot by idiots who don't know any range rules (local outdoor range here in Brownwood for example). There are happy mediums. You just have to look around and find your comfort level. I am extremely safety conscious when it comes to gun handling and prefer not to be around those who are not.
Thanks for this. Didn't know some "just have a key" as I sure wouldn't want to go to those either.

It's nice to have friends with land for shooting but I'd like to have a good public range nearby, and I do not... :grumble
I am a member of a private club range that is "just have a key" controlled. We have never had a problem beyond vandalism (people shooting at signs) and since coming under a new set of officers around 2003 we have curtailed that. There is a lot of pride in membership, we are limited to 250 members and the ability to join is difficult and breaking rules is dealt with quickly.

As far as getting murdered for your guns... um, you're at a gun range, that would be like robbing a gun store. I would think it would be one of the lest likely places to be murdered. I've said it before and will say it again, you meet the nicest people at a gun range. Usually I go on my Friday off work and can sit out in the country alone for hours at a time. It's a good way to decompress and sometimes I even shoot.
I think we are talking 2 different kinds of places. The outdoor ranges key controlled I am referring to are usually out of the way, secluded with not many people at a time. We had a murder at ours here in Brownwood years ago and 2 years ago on Christmas day a man was murdered at such a range in OK. Those keys get passed around to buddies and half the folks don't lock it, so lots of non-members come in. Think about it...just you and another guy by yourselves. You're not going to be alarmed at another guy with a gun. Pop. Between that and the dangerous shooters (ie, firing while someone is on the range checking targets after calling cease fire) I do not go to this one. That is why I said each range will be different, just check it out.
by wgoforth
Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:51 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?
Replies: 70
Views: 16059

Re: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?

TomsTXCHL wrote:
wgoforth wrote:
TomsTXCHL wrote:The rest of us would be "hands in the air" as soon as the cops arrived (and especially as the BG had no weapon.
Don't be too sure that's what everyone else would do. I see people sweeping entire firing lines of folks who should know better. But yes, sweeping is inadvertently pointing your gun at others. I tell folks if I see a barrel, I am likely to return favor.
I assume my selected quote is what you were referring to.

If I or my wife has called the police, then I am expecting them and would certainly not wheel-around in surprise when they arrived. Or maybe you mean they were so close to have surprised ME which means my situational awareness was nil.

BTW I have not spent a lot of time at Texas public gun ranges (none, in fact, having only experienced private property shooting). Are they dangerous places?
Depends on the range. Some ranges are strictly monitored; some not at all. I won't go to the kind where you just have a key to let yourself in. Good place to get murdered for your guns, or shot by idiots who don't know any range rules (local outdoor range here in Brownwood for example). There are happy mediums. You just have to look around and find your comfort level. I am extremely safety conscious when it comes to gun handling and prefer not to be around those who are not.
by wgoforth
Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:05 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?
Replies: 70
Views: 16059

Re: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?

TomsTXCHL wrote:
wgoforth wrote:Well here is where you can order them, and shows the advantage of having it! Apparently it prevents you from sweeping a cop...." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What I find unrealistic about the video is that the GG would move like he did--maybe that's what you mean wgoforth by "sweeping a cop". The rest of us would be "hands in the air" as soon as the cops arrived (and especially as the BG had no weapon.

While I like the idea of "one hand holding the BG and the other showing my badge to the cops" I suspect I might have shot the SOB already thus no need to have my gun displayed at all anymore!

:thumbs2:

Seriously though, I'd likely have told the BG just to drop his knife and get the heck away from me before I did something like shoot him dead.
Don't be too sure that's what everyone else would do. I see people sweeping entire firing lines of folks who should know better. But yes, sweeping is inadvertently pointing your gun at others. I tell folks if I see a barrel, I am likely to return favor.
by wgoforth
Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:55 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?
Replies: 70
Views: 16059

Re: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?

texanjoker wrote:
Abraham wrote:Since we know there's a market for this stuff, who here has the courage to admit they want a CHL badge or sticker?

Anyone willing to step up to the plate?

I think the REAL question would be who in here is running around wearing their CHL badge....... you know there is one or two or three :smilelol5: I have yet to see one in person, but am going to LOL if somebody presents one to me vs their chl.

The closest I've seen here in TX is a guy wearing a "Texas militia" badge.
Well here is where you can order them, and shows the advantage of having it! Apparently it prevents you from sweeping a cop...." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by wgoforth
Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:11 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?
Replies: 70
Views: 16059

Re: Won't carry a CHL badge? How about a sticker?

Dunno, a local cop here thought the badges were a good idea. When I asked him why, he said "To save your life if I respond and I see you with a gun." I asked "Anyone can buy one. Why wouldn't holding my CHL be better?" He said "Because anyone can have a credit card." ugh!

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