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by wgoforth
Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:19 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: LCP vs P238
Replies: 33
Views: 6782

Re: LCP vs P238

PeaceOfMind wrote:
wgoforth wrote:
PeaceOfMind wrote:
wgoforth wrote:Don't think anyone has mentioned the LCP does not lock open on last round. For me that is a deal breaker. The Bodyguard and P238 do lock back. I have had the LCP, Bodyguard and now carry the P238. As said, the main question will be single or double action. The BG handles better all around than the LCP to me. The P238 better than any. Though the laser was more of a gimmick to me on the BG (your not going to need or have time to use it in an upclose defense) it does provide counterweight to the barrel and reduces muzzle flip.

You can find a plain jane P238 for $450, so price a little more compatable with the others.... this one does not have night sites and has plastic grips.
Exactly my thoughts...Slides that do not lock back don't sit well with me. No safety, not even a grip safety is not for me either. I have a basic P238 (not a fancy finish or night sights or grips for that matter) but I love it. Paid $430 otd at a GRB gun show. $20 more for some grips that look better and maybe $20 for a spare mag. Got a Tucker holster for it and I'm set. I think lasers are probably only good for training purposes so other than that I don't want one. Night Sights are nice but not necessary to me. At least in no way I can think of....If it is too dark to see my sights what makes me think I can see my target. I'm sure there is a rare chance I could need them but anywhere around Houston there will be ambient light that I can use and you WILL NOT catch me in a dark alley.

The finish on the P238 is great. No loose ends anywhere I can find. While cleaning, I dropped the slide on the garage floor from about 5'. Left the slightest of nicks in the finish. Oh well. About the grip size, the gun fires so smoothly that I see no need for an extended grip. Have one on my XD 40 SC and thought I would get one on every pistol. After shooting the P238 I decided not to get one. It doesn't even try to come out of my hand. A buddy (6'5" so naturally large hands) shot it and didn't even mention the grip so it must have been fine with him too. Oh and the guy will NEVER go without voicing his opinion :roll: so it REALLY must have not bothered him .

I have a KelTec P3AT also and was worried about my boys the whole time due to the lack of safety. Couldn't carry one in the chamber so why carry it? That's just how I live my life! :coolgleamA:
Glad you enjoy it... I wouldn't hesitate to carry a round in a chamber with a DAO like the LCP/KT/BG, etc. Long trigger pull, and in holster should not be problem. Remember that cops carry Glocks all the time w/o a safety. Remember "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" and you'll be fine. Actually, I prefer sans safety as the fear in an emergency many people would not remember to switch it off. Might still give the extension a try...it feels like a different gun with it, AND you are getting an extra round also.
The only thing I don't like about the extended grip mag is the way the extension piece doesn't match up with the butt of the grip. That seems weird that they would not make it of a more Pearce style extension. A grip extension also makes it just that much harder to not have it print. 6 + 1 capacity will probably do the trick anyway. Unless PCP is involved!
Not quite sure what you mean about grip not matching up to butt... Are you comparing the actual factory mag? Here is what it looks like in it. To me feels and looks better than a Pearce style.

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by wgoforth
Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:14 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: LCP vs P238
Replies: 33
Views: 6782

Re: LCP vs P238

Dreamliner wrote:A friend and I did a compare over the 4th with his LCP and my P238. P238 wins hands down because of the SA trigger and low recoil due to it's weight. My friend didn't like the fact that the P238 is 1911 style with safety and he doesn't carry one in the pipe, but to each is their own, I rather have good shot placement.
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Not only would they very possibly not have time to rack a round, but need to be able to deploy one handed. That other hand may be cut, broke or being used to deflect a knife or shove a person back. If they are not comfortable carrying a round in the gun they have, they need to find a gun they would be comfortable doing so with. I used to not carry one in the chamber, and prepared with the Israeli style of racking as I pulled...the time I practiced with had it to an art...but then the issue I began working with was the upclose, self defense. Most self defense will be at bad-breath range.. that increases the possibility of needing to push them away or to deflect an object. Lots faster to sweep off that safety with thumb of strong side, than to rack a round.
by wgoforth
Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:41 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: LCP vs P238
Replies: 33
Views: 6782

Re: LCP vs P238

PeaceOfMind wrote:
wgoforth wrote:Don't think anyone has mentioned the LCP does not lock open on last round. For me that is a deal breaker. The Bodyguard and P238 do lock back. I have had the LCP, Bodyguard and now carry the P238. As said, the main question will be single or double action. The BG handles better all around than the LCP to me. The P238 better than any. Though the laser was more of a gimmick to me on the BG (your not going to need or have time to use it in an upclose defense) it does provide counterweight to the barrel and reduces muzzle flip.

You can find a plain jane P238 for $450, so price a little more compatable with the others.... this one does not have night sites and has plastic grips.
Exactly my thoughts...Slides that do not lock back don't sit well with me. No safety, not even a grip safety is not for me either. I have a basic P238 (not a fancy finish or night sights or grips for that matter) but I love it. Paid $430 otd at a GRB gun show. $20 more for some grips that look better and maybe $20 for a spare mag. Got a Tucker holster for it and I'm set. I think lasers are probably only good for training purposes so other than that I don't want one. Night Sights are nice but not necessary to me. At least in no way I can think of....If it is too dark to see my sights what makes me think I can see my target. I'm sure there is a rare chance I could need them but anywhere around Houston there will be ambient light that I can use and you WILL NOT catch me in a dark alley.

The finish on the P238 is great. No loose ends anywhere I can find. While cleaning, I dropped the slide on the garage floor from about 5'. Left the slightest of nicks in the finish. Oh well. About the grip size, the gun fires so smoothly that I see no need for an extended grip. Have one on my XD 40 SC and thought I would get one on every pistol. After shooting the P238 I decided not to get one. It doesn't even try to come out of my hand. A buddy (6'5" so naturally large hands) shot it and didn't even mention the grip so it must have been fine with him too. Oh and the guy will NEVER go without voicing his opinion :roll: so it REALLY must have not bothered him .

I have a KelTec P3AT also and was worried about my boys the whole time due to the lack of safety. Couldn't carry one in the chamber so why carry it? That's just how I live my life! :coolgleamA:
Glad you enjoy it... I wouldn't hesitate to carry a round in a chamber with a DAO like the LCP/KT/BG, etc. Long trigger pull, and in holster should not be problem. Remember that cops carry Glocks all the time w/o a safety. Remember "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" and you'll be fine. Actually, I prefer sans safety as the fear in an emergency many people would not remember to switch it off. Might still give the extension a try...it feels like a different gun with it, AND you are getting an extra round also.
by wgoforth
Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:00 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: LCP vs P238
Replies: 33
Views: 6782

Re: LCP vs P238

brewdawg wrote:So I ended up going with the LCP. pcgizmo was selling one and for the price it was a no-brainer. Haven't had a chance to take it to the range yet, but it has been nice to be able to drop it in my shorts for a quick run to the store rather than having to find a holster and belt for the XD.

need to get some true SD rounds for it, and go to the range and put some rounds through it to get more familiar. Just wish they would get the 2 new ranges in Frisco and Triple M in McKinney open. I have no desire to go back and shoot at Bullet Trap during the summer months.

Now I can scratch the pocket pistol off my wish list.
Congrats on a good lil' gun..... I hope you have a pocket holster rather than just dropping the gun into your pocket to flop around, allowing trigger to catch on a corner/edge of something. .380 vesectomies are not fun.

Check out such as the Desantis Nemesis holster. It will stay in the pocket but lets you pull the gun out easily. Keeps the gun in upright position everytime and helps keep down "printing."
by wgoforth
Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:46 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: LCP vs P238
Replies: 33
Views: 6782

Re: LCP vs P238

CBuchanan wrote:I have not shot an LCP but if the trigger is anything like the LC9 I will never own one. I have shot a P238 and it is an awesome pistol. If I ever buy a .380 it will be the P238
All of the DAO .380's I have ever shot had thesame feel to the trigger. Why can't they make a DA/SA in these?? I do carry the 238, but the safety is still a little concern. I just don't like safeties on a carry gun.
by wgoforth
Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:04 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: LCP vs P238
Replies: 33
Views: 6782

Re: LCP vs P238

jbirds1210 wrote:I shot the little Sigs on three occasions and had constant malfunctions from each of them. To be fair..it was very early in their release. A combination of it being a new design and my absolute disgust for the 1911 platform was likely a bad combination.

I have an LCP and carry it as a backup from time to time. The trigger is horrid and the sights nonexistent. I have run several hundred rounds through it and had one malfunction.

I would choose the LCP.

Jason
When the P238 first came out, they had 2 problems, bad recoil spring and improperly shaped magazine. Those are long since corrected and no probs at all. I agree with trigger on LCP. As to the sights on the LCP... designed for point n shoot upclose defense, where you wont be using sights anyway. They arn't very accurate at long distances anyway. The P238 on the other hand, has great sights and more accurate than I am at longer distances.
by wgoforth
Thu May 31, 2012 1:24 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: LCP vs P238
Replies: 33
Views: 6782

Re: LCP vs P238

Don't think anyone has mentioned the LCP does not lock open on last round. For me that is a deal breaker. The Bodyguard and P238 do lock back. I have had the LCP, Bodyguard and now carry the P238. As said, the main question will be single or double action. The BG handles better all around than the LCP to me. The P238 better than any. Though the laser was more of a gimmick to me on the BG (your not going to need or have time to use it in an upclose defense) it does provide counterweight to the barrel and reduces muzzle flip.

You can find a plain jane P238 for $450, so price a little more compatable with the others.... this one does not have night sites and has plastic grips.

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