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by nitrogen
Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:01 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry
Replies: 94
Views: 18561

kw5kw wrote:
nitrogen wrote: It might not violate the law, but i've seen it used as an excuse to hassle. A buddy of mine has been hassled for an accidental flash. We were at a resturant in Plano, and his shirt bunched up above his weapon when he went for his wallet. A police officer saw him, and basically hauled us forcefully out, him in handcuffs, while he checked us out. (I was CHL-Less at the time and was not carrying)

It'd be nice, in my view, to lose the requirement to conceal if only to have one less thing to get hassled about.
What was the result of this?
Basically, after it became apparent that he had no warrants, he was lectured about keeping things concealed, and how he made a lot of people "afraid for their lives" and how he could be in jail if he had anything to drink, and to be more careful.

I think he talked to some superiors who basically told him he shouldn't have made a big deal out of it, but i'm guessing.

Considering he broke the letter of the law, I can't fault the officer for what he did; I'm sure he did it more for show of everyone else in the resturant (especially if someone complained to him).

If anything, it reinforced to me that concealed meant CONCEALED. Some people get freaked out easily, and that I have to respect that, even if I roll my eyes at it. Also, I better be sure 100% of the time that my weapon is concealed.

My basic point: Without open carry, an officer can see something that he sees as breaking the law, without possibly understanding the finer points of it. (Open Carry is illegal vs. Intentionally failing to conceal vs. accidentally failing to conceal)
What happened to my friend and I was (hopefully!) an edge condition, but having seen it makes me want open carry, just to set expectations with the "sheeple" as it were.
by nitrogen
Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:18 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry
Replies: 94
Views: 18561

Charles L. Cotton wrote: An accidental "flash" doesn't violate TPC §46.035(a). It requires intentional failure to conceal.

Chas.

§ 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

It might not violate the law, but i've seen it used as an excuse to hassle. A buddy of mine has been hassled for an accidental flash. We were at a resturant in Plano, and his shirt bunched up above his weapon when he went for his wallet. A police officer saw him, and basically hauled us forcefully out, him in handcuffs, while he checked us out. (I was CHL-Less at the time and was not carrying)

It'd be nice, in my view, to lose the requirement to conceal if only to have one less thing to get hassled about.
by nitrogen
Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:57 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry
Replies: 94
Views: 18561

It'd be nice if only so people wouldn't be paranoid (or harassed) about accidental printing or an occasional unintentional "flash"

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