Search found 10 matches

by carlson1
Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:05 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

Thanks. I went to AR15.com and read some, but I did not see anything that applied to the hand stop.

I did not realize how quick you could get over 26" while building an AR pistol.
by carlson1
Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:24 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

DaveT wrote:
J Wilson wrote:Check #12 on chart.I think DaveT is correct
J Wilson,

In my post that tank wants to correct me on, I was totally correct about the angled foregrip being legal. That is verified on the chart I posted earlier.

However, I also made a statement that a vertical foregrip was illegal.... and that's the part of what I said that Tank corrected me on. Actually, he and I are both right.

The regs and the chart state that an vertical foregrip is illegal, UNLESS the overall length of the AR-Pistol is OVER 26 inches.

I was referring to what I know about my AR-pistol, which is well under 26 inches in overall length.... so for my weapon, what I stated is right, a vertical foregrip is illegal.

What I failed to take into consideration, and what Tank is right about, is AR-pistols that exceed 26 inches in overall length are legal with a vertical foregrip.

I should have been more specific, that might have avoided all this fuss. I'm an old guy, but even after a lifetime of weapon use in both the military and as a Police Officer, I will be the first to admit that I am no expert, and certainly do not know it all. What I am confident about is that there are always folks that know more than I do, and I respect them for their knowledge.

And just for the record, I do not get my feelings hurt over internet stuff. There's way too many more important things in life to worry about.
OK :headscratch After reading this I went and remeasured my AR pistol. My pistol is 28 1/2 inches long. That is including the KX5 flash hider. I am assuming that it is 26" without the flash hider.

I do not have the foregrip, but I did install a hand STOP. Is the hand stop legal? I do not see that on the chart that was posted.

This stuff can get sticky. :rules:
by carlson1
Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:46 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

DaveT wrote:To save some the bother of feeling like they need to correct me,
I'm not saying anything else on the subject.

Cheers ! :cheers2:
I am not correcting you. I think you are right. I especially like the visual of the chart, but the ATF letter backs up the chart.
by carlson1
Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:17 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

LAYGO wrote:
carlson1 wrote:According the chart above the angled foregrip on a pistol is legal or am I missing something? According to question 7 on page 3 the angled foregrip is also legal.

This must be the most misunderstood question when it comes to AR Pistols.
I think the chart & #7 say the same thing: AFG on a pistol is legal.
That is how I see it too.
by carlson1
Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

According the chart above the angled foregrip on a pistol is legal or am I missing something? According to question 7 on page 3 the angled foregrip is also legal.

This must be the most misunderstood question when it comes to AR Pistols.
by carlson1
Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:58 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

DaveT wrote:The forearm is totally legal, I also have a copy of the explanation from ATF to that effect. I can post it here if you need it.

The addition of a vertical foregrip is not legal and would change the weapon's designation from an AR pistol to a short barreled rifle.
If you can post it that would be great.

It appears everyone has their on ideal. I guess you need to carry a copy of a letter everywhere you go.
by carlson1
Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:31 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

C-dub wrote:[ Image ]
:grumble Thanks DaveT! I'll have to add this to the list of cool guns I'd like to have. :drool:

Is the forearm legal?
by carlson1
Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:45 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

Seabear wrote:I like that. Very slick. So does the cheek riser still let it qualify as a pistol? I like the looks of that a lot better than the sig brace. :thumbs2:
Yes is still qualified as a pistol. There is a letter from ATF for this as well.
by carlson1
Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:39 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

Here is mine with cheek riser. Again 11.5 Spikes.
by carlson1
Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:02 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
Replies: 44
Views: 9653

Re: AR Pistol

I have had two. My opinion is not to go with less than 10.5. I now have a 11.5 Spikes Tactical and I love it. I had to have a forum member's son work on it for me with weekend.

I had the Sig brace and I did not care for it. I have something I am using now that is more less a cheek riser. I am taking it off and going back to the padded buffer tube.

Maybe I can post pictures later. Please post pictures of yours when you get it.

Return to “AR Pistol”