While McCain did vote for Toomey-Manchin, he also voted for Grassley-Cruz.mojo84 wrote:I'm having even more negative thoughts about McCain. He needs to go.
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- Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:59 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
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- Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:58 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
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All of these amendments required 60 votes to pass.philip964 wrote:Ok I am all confused. I must be a low information voter. My liberal friends are extremely upset on Facebook. They are saying things like I can't say what I want cause facebook will suspend me and things like that.
How is a bill defeated with more yes than no's? Or is this to see if they can stop a filabuster, so it requires 60 votes. There was a bill with Cruz's name is that our Cruz?
Is it all over or does the Obama bribery start now? You know like on Obamacare. You get a new air force base if you change your vote.
I figured the assault weapons ban was dead on arrival, but is the background check bill also now dead?
Analysis please, thanks.
Yes, it was our Cruz who presented a very good bill regarding NICS enforcement.
It is not over. The bribery starts now.
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:16 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
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They're in a position to offer political favors and appointments that we cannot.mamabearCali wrote:That is true, but so do we. My two idiotic senators from VA are on record as being dirt bags. VA is very pro-second amendment.....let us see what kind of hammer we can throw in their elections.Mike1951 wrote:Of course, with these votes on record, the antis know exactly who to strong arm or bribe before the actual bill is voted on.mamabearCali wrote:today is a good day...a good day for freedom.
Hopefully, holding them responsible for votes cast continues to be enough.
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:08 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
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Of course, with these votes on record, the antis know exactly who to strong arm or bribe before the actual bill is voted on.mamabearCali wrote:today is a good day...a good day for freedom.
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:14 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
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Quite possible that nothing may pass today, but it just means two more weeks of sausage making.baldeagle wrote:This sounds encouraging. Maybe there will be no legislation at all on gun control. Of all the proposals the one that was opposed the least was Grassley-Cruz. Perhaps they can work with that to craft something that will pass. It seems like the more draconian proposals are going down to defeat for sure.
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:48 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
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Grassley-Cruz also did not pass.
Leahy Amendment up next.
Leahy Amendment up next.
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:36 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
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Grassley - Cruz, which sounds very good.
They will need the 46 nays and at least 14 of those who voted for Toomey-Manchin.
I'm hearing a lot of names called without hearing responses. Are the 54 not voting on this one?
They will need the 46 nays and at least 14 of those who voted for Toomey-Manchin.
I'm hearing a lot of names called without hearing responses. Are the 54 not voting on this one?
- Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:28 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
- Replies: 78
- Views: 10707
Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
Toomey-Manchin 54 ayes - 46 nays
Grassley-Cruz 52 ayes -48 nays
Grassley-Cruz 52 ayes -48 nays