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by Mike1951
Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:59 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
Replies: 78
Views: 10707

Re: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED

mojo84 wrote:I'm having even more negative thoughts about McCain. He needs to go.
While McCain did vote for Toomey-Manchin, he also voted for Grassley-Cruz.
by Mike1951
Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:58 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
Replies: 78
Views: 10707

Re: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED

philip964 wrote:Ok I am all confused. I must be a low information voter. My liberal friends are extremely upset on Facebook. They are saying things like I can't say what I want cause facebook will suspend me and things like that.

How is a bill defeated with more yes than no's? Or is this to see if they can stop a filabuster, so it requires 60 votes. There was a bill with Cruz's name is that our Cruz?

Is it all over or does the Obama bribery start now? You know like on Obamacare. You get a new air force base if you change your vote.

I figured the assault weapons ban was dead on arrival, but is the background check bill also now dead?

Analysis please, thanks.
All of these amendments required 60 votes to pass.

Yes, it was our Cruz who presented a very good bill regarding NICS enforcement.

It is not over. The bribery starts now.
by Mike1951
Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:16 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
Replies: 78
Views: 10707

Re: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED

mamabearCali wrote:
Mike1951 wrote:
mamabearCali wrote:today is a good day...a good day for freedom.
Of course, with these votes on record, the antis know exactly who to strong arm or bribe before the actual bill is voted on.
That is true, but so do we. My two idiotic senators from VA are on record as being dirt bags. VA is very pro-second amendment.....let us see what kind of hammer we can throw in their elections.
They're in a position to offer political favors and appointments that we cannot.

Hopefully, holding them responsible for votes cast continues to be enough.
by Mike1951
Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:08 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
Replies: 78
Views: 10707

Re: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED

mamabearCali wrote:today is a good day...a good day for freedom.
Of course, with these votes on record, the antis know exactly who to strong arm or bribe before the actual bill is voted on.
by Mike1951
Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:14 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
Replies: 78
Views: 10707

Re: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED

baldeagle wrote:This sounds encouraging. Maybe there will be no legislation at all on gun control. Of all the proposals the one that was opposed the least was Grassley-Cruz. Perhaps they can work with that to craft something that will pass. It seems like the more draconian proposals are going down to defeat for sure.
Quite possible that nothing may pass today, but it just means two more weeks of sausage making.
by Mike1951
Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:48 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
Replies: 78
Views: 10707

Re: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED

Grassley-Cruz also did not pass.

Leahy Amendment up next.
by Mike1951
Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:36 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
Replies: 78
Views: 10707

Re: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED

Grassley - Cruz, which sounds very good.

They will need the 46 nays and at least 14 of those who voted for Toomey-Manchin.

I'm hearing a lot of names called without hearing responses. Are the 54 not voting on this one?
by Mike1951
Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:28 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED
Replies: 78
Views: 10707

Toomey-Manchin DEFEATED/Grassley-Cruz DEFEATED

Toomey-Manchin 54 ayes - 46 nays

Grassley-Cruz 52 ayes -48 nays

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