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4 months out and we have 16 folks who have expressed interest in participating, but we still have slots available!

Really, what free shooting clinic did you attend where you shot 1000 rounds in a day? I would like to go there!

flintknapper wrote:However, you make a good point...(operator error), the shooter himself may be doing something that diminishes the potential reliability of the weapon, so this needs to be looked at honestly. If your gun fails you miserably..I pick it up..(using the same ammo, etc) and it "magically" starts working, then we have "operator error" (a variable).

Yep, and here is a professional, James Yeager, shooting his carry gun. Notice how the gun malfunctions several times while he is shooting it, but never malfunctions while his buddy is shooting it. Yeager blames the ammunition, yet the ammo works fine for the other shooter.
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Like I said above, real guns and real people. People like to talk about their perfect guns, but a lot of perfect guns come to these matches that magically are not perfect during the matches.

Both Glocks and "quality" 1911's (with proper lubrication and fresh springs) will be acceptably reliable.

And yet we saw half the guns malfunction in the first 50 rounds. Odd.

Check out this Glock v 1911 match. There, guns that malf'd were out of the match, game over.

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The match started at 8:00 and by a few minutes after 9:00, 7 of the 16 shooters were out. By Lunch, another 4 were gone.

Yes, logic would dictate and properly setup guns should go the distance with no problems, and yet match after match, we see the real guns that belong to real people not going the distance.

Sure this is a CHL forum and in that context firing is for self defense.

The 2008 ISHOT1000 had the theme of North Hollywood Shootout challenge and trying to make precision shots on moving targets, working our way back to 75 yards over the course of the day. It was a real eye opener for many as to just how hard it was to make a head shot on a moving target at 75 yards. The ground and backstop suffered greatly! Many of the shade trees along the range did as well.

Another neat aspect several shooters learned was just how badly their shooting prowess deteriorates when they are worn out. Few people opt to go to the range when they have had a very long day and are physically and mentally exhausted. So they are less than familiar with their gun handling skills under those circumstances. However, many of us do venture out for other things under those circumstances and it is nice to know the skill level at which you are capable. Sure, this can be done other ways, no doubt, but like I said, most people opt not to explore that realm on their own.

For 2009, we will add barricades, strong and weak hand shooting, as well as various shooting positions, but reduce the distances considerably. We want to challenge the shooters as far as making the day productive and interesting as well as challenging the guns.

Liberty wrote:

flintknapper wrote:

Sounds like an exercise to see who's weapon will fire the "dirtiest".

Too many variables to prove anything else IMO.

It ain't about provin' nothin its all about braggin' rights. I learned something from the last time and I wasn't even there. The results were interesting.

Like you said, you weren't there and so you have it a bit wrong. The old Glock v. 1911 matches were about bragging rights. While this match is a spinoff of those matches, it isn't about bragging rights. It is about seeing how well real guns work with real people shooting them.

Somewhere several years back, somebody came up with the notion that 1000 rounds was a nice performance standard. It was far below that done for Glocks and 1911s, but something folks could do in a day and so the amount has stuck.

What has been a real eye opener (for me) is how poorly a goodly number of Glocks actually perform when shot by ordinary people using factory ammo (even worse with reloads). We all knew 1911s weren't that reliable (LOL), but they have won many Glock v. 1911 matches despite the odds against them.

Even if you don't think it will prove anything or you don't think you and your gun have anything to prove, no problem. It is still a good time.

If you can't afford the ammo, no problem. I fully understand. Come on out anyway! It will still be a good time!