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mojo84 wrote:

Beiruty wrote:

mojo84 wrote: ......same quality of vetting the administration plans for the Syrian refugees?

It is really tough the shooter was born and raised in US. Had the same "dumping down" cadering. What goes in one's mind is really tough to discover/monitor/predict.

There was more than one shooter. Not all of them were born in the US. Why do you only select part of the facts to try to make your point?

My comment is in regard to the vetting of refugees. I do not believe it is unreasonable for a sovereign country to be able to vet immigrants and refugees properly before letting them into the country. If it is not possible to vet them properly, then I believe a country has the right to deny entry. Do you agree or disagree with this?


I get and understand not all Muslims are bad people. I don't claim they are.

mojo84 wrote: ......same quality of vetting the administration plans for the Syrian refugees?

VMI77 wrote:Our MSM and the Democratic party are a bigger existential threats to the American Republic than any terrorists.

Richbirdhunter wrote:

Abraham wrote:Muslims have a parallel with Christians in that there is plenty of internecine doctrinal religious differences, i.e. like the differences between say Methodists vs. Baptists, or even more divided, Catholic school of thought vs. various Protestant schools of thought.

Muslims suffer these same schisms and are often willing to kill each other when disagreement arises.

Just being a Muslim may not comport with a terrorist if the Muslim isn't his kind of Muslim...

Just being Muslim isn't necessarily a get out of jail free situation when confronted by a radical Muslim...You have to be the "right kind of Muslim" or bam, you're dead too.

At the time a good Muslim was up against an Islamic terrorist I don't think the good Muslim would tell the Islamic terrorist that he's not a true Muslim. I think they would bro hug and say lets go kill some bacon eating infidels

Rutty wrote:Richbirdhunter and Beiruty, The difference and beauty of common ground also would say that neither of you, faced with being forced to bow down to either side, would have to stand alone as the other would be there armed and ready to defend you.

Pariah3j wrote:

Javier730 wrote:

Beiruty wrote:

Richbirdhunter wrote:I live in Texas and I am uneasy about Islam

I live in Texas and I am Muslim, and I am uneasy about terrorism, mass killing, for a motive or no motive, for abortion, for white supremacy, or home grown terrorism, imported wahabbists terrorism, or whatever might constitute a threat to one's safety.

For those of you uneasy about Islam, look up the most peaceful religions. People whos religion is Islam are not terrorists. Isis are terrorists who just so happen to be Islamic.

If you feel uneasy about a religious group because of a group of people doing bad things while claiming to be believers of that religion, you should feel uneasy about every belief as I doubt there is a religious group whos followers have yet to commit wicked acts.

I have to disagree that Islam is a peaceful religion. There are plenty of peaceful moderates/modern practitioners that are peaceful. But I believe the religion at its core, practiced in an orthodox manner is not peaceful. And I believe there is a ever growing orthodox movement that is generally referred to as 'radical' Islam.

That said, I have no problem with those who practice their religion peacefully. That goes for any religion.

Richbirdhunter wrote:

lildave40 wrote:

Richbirdhunter wrote:

lildave40 wrote:

Richbirdhunter wrote:

Beiruty wrote:

Richbirdhunter wrote:I live in Texas and I am uneasy about Islam

I live in Texas and I am Muslim, and I am uneasy about terrorism, mass killing, for a motive or no motive, for abortion, for white supremacy, or home grown terrorism, imported wahabbists terrorism, or whatever might constitute a threat to one's safety.

I understand that you're a Muslim and I will continue to be kind and respectful just as you have been to us and I thank you for that. With that being said, if you and I were standing shoulder to shoulder and a Islamic terrorist came up to us and say convert or die. In that situation you are safe and I am fighting.

On the other side of the coin, if a White supremacist came up to us I'd have a good chance of surviving. I'm a big guy with a shaved head and a goatee.

In either scenario we both have the right to fight and hate the one that wants to kill us.

I have to disagree with you. They will try to kill you and him because your an American. I saw it over and over. They are not going to give you a chance like you say. They are going to shoot without regret. Black white brown Catholic muslim jewish your an American.

The Commiefornia shooter was an American, that's not a disqualification

You are correct. However he was converted prior to the attacked.

Converted from what? He was a life long Muslim

Richbirdhunter wrote:

Beiruty wrote:

Richbirdhunter wrote:I live in Texas and I am uneasy about Islam

I live in Texas and I am Muslim, and I am uneasy about terrorism, mass killing, for a motive or no motive, for abortion, for white supremacy, or home grown terrorism, imported wahabbists terrorism, or whatever might constitute a threat to one's safety.

I understand that you're a Muslim and I will continue to be kind and respectful just as you have been to us and I thank you for that. With that being said, if you and I were standing shoulder to shoulder and a Islamic terrorist came up to us and say convert or die. In that situation you are safe and I am fighting.

On the other side of the coin, if a White supremacist came up to us I'd have a good chance of surviving. I'm a big guy with a shaved head and a goatee.

In either scenario we both have the right to fight and hate the one that wants to kill us.

Richbirdhunter wrote:I live in Texas and I am uneasy about Islam